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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:44 PM
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Gore's Dean Endorsement Exposes Lieberman's Woes
Fulfilling their need to name a winner and a loser for every campaign development, pundits were describing former vice president Al Gore's endorsement this week of former Vermont governor Howard Dean as a body blow to the presidential aspirations of Connecticut Senator Joseph Lieberman. Lieberman clearly was surprised and chagrined by the move of his 2000 running mate but vowed to soldier on.

"The voters are a month and a half away from voting," Lieberman said on NBC's "Today Show" on Tuesday morning. "I never premised my campaign on Al Gore's support.... Al Gore has only one vote in the primaries."

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One figure who represents a certain kind of aging Jewish Democrat, former New York City mayor Edward Koch, told the Forward he is supporting Bush because national security is paramount and "none of the Democrats have the stomach" to prosecute the war on terror.

An avid supporter of Gore during his 1988 presidential run, Koch said Gore's endorsement of Dean showed he had gone off the deep end with his party. "The Democratic Party has a large radical-left component," he said. "They demonstrate it in the primaries. Al Gore is now part of it."

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http://www.forward.com/issues/2003/03.12.12/news5.lieberman.html

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Al Gore has harmed the Democratic party by pushing it to the left. A canidate such as Dean, too weak on Israel and the war on terror, will drive moderates such as Koch to support Bush. Dean will represent a McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis type of disaster. Moderate campaigns such as those of Carter and Clinton were successful, as Gore should recall. Oh, my.



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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:46 PM
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1. what a bunch of crap

baseless crap

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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:48 PM
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2. Weak on Israel?
He seems like a moderate to me. He even has the former president of AIPAC as one of his advisors.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:49 PM
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3. Poop
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 01:55 PM
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4. Hopefully Dean won't be weak on Israel
and he can get them to remove the fence and the settlements from the West Bank!
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ajacobson Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:12 PM
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5. Ed Koch a moderate
BWAHHAHAHAH

Why does the media resurrect this guy from the "where is he now?" file? He's vile.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:15 PM
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6. Hopefully Dean will cut Israeli funding until further notice!
Now THAT would be progress.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:47 PM
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12. Along with the Palestinian funding
which goes directly into Arafat's bank account.
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pistoff democrat Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:24 PM
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7. Two paragraphs from the article:
From the beginning, Lieberman's candidacy has failed to unite the Jewish grassroots, such as they are, despite the senator's residual popularity from the 2000 campaign. Jewish Democratic activists and donors of various stripes quickly divided their support among the Democratic field; one measure of such division is the fact that nearly all the top candidates have Jewish finance chairmen, a key campaign post.

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Dean's national campaign co-chairman, Steve Grossman, a former president of the pro-Israel lobbying powerhouse Aipac, said Bush's foreign policy stances were indeed attractive to some in the Jewish community, but that is not the whole ballgame.

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:53 PM
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8. Why did you originally post this in the I/P room?
How could you possibly think that this has anything to do with I/P?
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 03:30 PM
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14. btt... excellent question....
I think I can answer it...

To some, everything has to do with I/P...

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 03:46 PM
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9. Calm down, you're misreading this
Koch is no longer a moderate and is now seen as a Republican pretending to be the Democrat he once was. This from a New Yorker who voted for him more than once. He should know better than to think anything of Bush's abilities on security since he knows that NYC is not getting the money we were promised and need. Dean is much more pragmatic than the media will admit and he's sufficiently supportive of Israel for me. Lieberman has run a lackluster campaign, which is his own fault. Those on the farther left are mostly for Kucinich, not Dean, and it remains to be seen where they will go in the general election.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:22 PM
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10. Dean is a moderate...
He is not "soft" on the war on terror, unless you count oppposing an illegal, unjust, and immoral war as being "soft."
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 09:41 PM
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11. Poop Poop Poop
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 04:12 PM
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15. So when is Koch going to endorse Zell Miller for Dem Prez nominee?
(sarcasm alert)
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