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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:28 PM
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Video of beheadings Funded & Produced by Republicans
Another group of swiftboat wannabe's. No doubt we will be seeing more from these guys, has anyone investigated their connections?

http://www.wfts.com/stories/2004/11/041109video.shtml

"Video of beheadings found for sale at Tampa gas station
an ABC Action News report 11/09/04 - updated 5:19 p.m.

TAMPA - Some of the worst horrors of the war in Iraq were on sale right here in the bay area. Action News found a DVD featuring the beheading of two Americans being sold at a Tampa gas station, but it was not the work of Muslim extremists.

The 90-minute video, titled Buried in the Sand, shows the gruesome way Saddam Hussein tortured his country. It also prominently features the end of Nicholas Berg's life -- in all, a series of brutally graphic, violent images culminating with the beheading.

The DVD was on a shelf right inside the front door of a Shell station on E. Busch Boulevard. The station's assistant manager, 'Sal,' couldn't explain why the station was selling it, but he admitted the images made him sick.

...

What might be most surprising about the video, however, is who was behind it. The movie was actually produced by two Republicans out of California as part of the campaign propaganda, meant to counter films like Fahrenheit 9/11."

Movie's website:
http://www.buriedinthesand.com

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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:36 PM
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Some would say: publicans also funded the beheadings themselves.
Cui bono?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:36 PM
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1. Totally disgusting.
And 'meant to counter films like F-9/11'? I don't think so-more like meant to line their money-grubbing pockets. Don't these people have consciences? :puke:
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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 12:57 PM
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2. "Some of the worst horrors of the war in Iraq "
are courtesy of the US occupiers.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:03 PM
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3. What is the substantiation for the charge?
"What might be most surprising about the video, however, is who was behind it. The movie was actually produced by two Republicans out of California as part of the campaign propaganda, meant to counter films like Fahrenheit 9/11."

I've done a whois and am starting to look into the production company. It would help my efforts to know the factual information behind the statement above.

thanks
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:20 PM
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4. Cartee is ex-porn producer
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 01:20 PM by hnsez
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:50 PM
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9. Substantiation is in post #6
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 01:58 PM by paineinthearse
....but there is no connection yet to anyone other than Cartee & "CYHL Pictures". Help there, if you can.

==================================================================

O’REILLY: “Are you guys conservatives?”

TAYLOR: “Well, I’m absolutely conservative. I hope this DVD, this documentary, will have an impact on the election.”

CARTEE: “I’m a fairly moderate Republican, more of an independent...some leanings to the right and some to the left.”

See full transcript in #6.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 02:10 PM
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14. Westlake Entertainment Group
http://www.theacorn.com/News/2003/0717/Community/113.html

03 1755964
FICTITIOUS BUSINESS
NAME STATEMENT


The following person(s) is(are) doing business as: 1) THE WESTLAKE ENTERTAINMENT GROUP 2) ALAN MARK MANAGEMENT 3) WESTLAKE MUSIC 4)COUNTRY CREEK RECORDS 5) COUNTRY CREEK MUSIC 6) GONE FISHIN’ ENTERTAINMENT 7) BIG BASS PRODUCTIONS 8) SIN CITY RECORDS 3835 R East Thousand Oaks Blvd., #302 CA 91362.

Alan M. Shapiro 2649 Country Ln. Westlake Village, CA 91361.

This business is conducted by a individual. The registrant commenced to transact business under the fictitious name or names listed has not yet begun. I declare that all information in this statement is true and correct. (A registrant who declares as true information which he or she knows to be false is guilty of a crime).

/s/ Alan M. Shapiro

This statement was filed with the County Clerk of Los Angeles County on June 19, 2003.

Pub: July 3, 10, 17, 24, 2003.

A-8803

NOTICE: This fictitious name statement expires five years from the date it was filed in the office of the County Clerk. A new fictitious business name statement must be filed before that time. The filing of this statement does not of itself authorize the use in this state of a fictitious business name in violation of the rights of another under federal, state, or common law (See Section 14400 et seq.,Business and Professions Code.)
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:39 PM
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5. Mark Taylor was interviewed by evangelical radio host
The films other author, Mark Taylor was interviewed on Dennis Prager's LA talk show. Dennis Prager is a conservative Jew & favorite of the Evangelicals.

http://stores.dennisprager.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=DP&Product_Code=11112004

http://www.dennisprager.com/column.html

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:41 PM
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6. Transcript of O'Reilly / producer & commentator
http://www.newshounds.us/2004/09/21/oreilly_the_allsleaze_zone_we_pander_you_decide.php

O’Reilly: The All-Sleaze Zone. We Pander. You Decide.
On September 20, 2004 (8:29 PM to 8:33 PM EDT) Bill O’Reilly interviewed Los Angeles Commentator, Mark Taylor and Producer Rob Cartee, who have just released a DVD entitled “Buried in the Sand: The Deception of America.”

O’REILLY: “Are you guys conservatives?”

TAYLOR: “Well, I’m absolutely conservative. I hope this DVD, this documentary, will have an impact on the election.”

CARTEE: “I’m a fairly moderate Republican, more of an independent...some leanings to the right and some to the left.”

O’REILLY: “Now, you’re the producer of “Buried in the Sand.” What did you want to show people...Why did you undertake the project?”

CARTEE: “When I originally heard about the footage of the beheading of Nicholas Berg, it struck my curiosity that these people would actually go out and film this stuff. I then started doing research. It was some of the projects - I found that the actual insurgents and Moslems and clerics and people like that throughout the Middle East have been taping stuff, not only the beheading, but torture and all the way to bomb making and was real shocked and it was, something I felt that people not only in the United States but around the world needed to know.”

(During Mr. Cartee’s statement and at various points throughout the show FOX aired censored clips of sadistic and brutal acts, e.g. tongues being cut out, hands being chopped off, mass graves, etc. A review - quoted below - says there are also beheadings.)

O’REILLY: “Alright. What point do you, Mr. Taylor, want people to take away from Saddam’s atrocities?”

TAYLOR: “A number of points. Number one: When you have somebody like Michael Moore presenting Saddam’s Iraq as an ‘oasis of peace’, as John McCain said at the Republican National Convention, when he does that. When Sen. Kennedy can stand up without reproach and compare what American soldiers did at Abu Graib to the mindless torture - and we show this in the video - of cutting off fingers - its unspeakable cruelty not to mention slaughtering at Abu Graib. More than have died since the invasion began. When the German Economic Minister can come out and call it a crime and that this caused terrible human suffering, it is time for the world to see what really happened. I love what Secretary of War Henry Stimson said during World War II. He said it takes - a lie can go around the world seven times before the truth can even get it’s pants on.”

O’REILLY: “But everybody knows, Mr. Cartee, how bad Saddam was. Nobody - even the apologists, even the Howard Deans of the world, alright - will cede that this was a Hitler light, just a horrible man. What political implication - what good does it do me to sit through your documentary to see how horrible he was? What do you want me to take away from it?”

CARTEE: “Well, Bill, even to this day - for instance, the Nazis in Germany and some of the atrocities - today there are still nay-sayers - there’s not a whole lot of them - that say that the actual atrocities committed against the Jewish people through, around Europe didn’t happen, which we all - anybody with common sense - realizes that, you know, these atrocities did. But could you imagine if we didn’t have the pictures of the Holocaust and everything to go along with it to support the evidence?”

O’REILLY: “You just wanted historical documentation of what happened? How ‘bout you, Mr. Taylor. What do you want people to take away from this? See, I know this guy’s bad, so I’m not inclined to go watch a 90-minute documentary.”

TAYLOR: “Right”

O’REILLY: “ Seein’ how bad he is.”

TAYLOR: Yeah.

TAYLOR: “I’m sorry. John Kerry came out today and has now said we would better off had we not gone in. Michael Moore and - I’ve had people on the left say ‘Well, we know this’. Well, then, how ‘bout correcting Michael Moore? How ‘bout correcting Sen. Kennedy? And there’s more to it than that. We show what these people, the Islamic terrorists - not only in Iraq but around the Middle East - do to their own people. We’ve had the left saying ‘what did we do to make them so savage.’ We’re going to show what they do to their own people. We’re gonna show the very kind of Sharia law that they want to enforce in the rest of the world. It’s evil. And it’s a war that threatens our very civilization.”

O’REILLY: “Alright.”

TAYLOR: “It’s important to understand the reality of it.”

O’REILLY: “So, after watching this, I’m getting from both of you that you want people to take the war on terror more seriously and be a little more hawkish about it.”

TAYLOR: “Yeah.”

CARTEE: “Unavoidably, yeah.”

TAYLOR: “Yes, absolutely, I believe that this stuff has been around in the American media - a good portion of it - and they have sat on it, they’ve embargoed it. That’s why we call it the deception of America.”

O’REILLY (cutting off Taylor’s last few words): “Well, you know it’ll be interesting to see ... what other programs book you to talk about it.”

TAYLOR: “Yes, it will.”

O’REILLLY: “And keep our bookers in - and tell us where you appear and in a couple of weeks, we’ll talk about that. Alright? Your experiences there”

Comment

Here are excerpts from two online reviews of this masterpiece of American filmmaking due out today:

Michael Jacobson, DVD Movie Central Since I can't get the link to activate, here's the URL: http://www.dvdmoviecentral.com/ReviewsText/buried_in_the_sand.htm

“I was one of many who were highly offended by Senator Ted Kennedy’s flippant remark about how Saddam’s torture chambers were re-opened under U.S. management. As an answer to him, this film first shows some of the photos and video footage of the Abu Ghraib abuses we were forced to endure for weeks and weeks. But then, to leave no doubt as to the difference, comes earlier Abu Ghraib video, when it was Saddam’s prison. We actually see Hussein’s prisoners being beaten to death while listening to them scream and plead for their lives until their bodies slump still from the soldiers’ clubbings.

But that isn’t all. We see footage of Iraqi citizens getting their fingers chopped off, their hands removed, their arms broken. We hear prisoners scream and cry while getting their bare feet beaten mercilessly. We see Iraqi stonings, where prisoners are tied, covered, buried chest deep in sand and summarily bludgeoned with large rocks until they’re blood soaked messes. We see the footage of suicide bombers as filmed by the terrorists themselves for their own purposes, including the carnage of the aftermath of an Israeli bus bombing, showing severed limbs and bodies that appear to have been turned inside out from the force of the blast.

The film accuses the American media of being accomplices in trying to quell the anger of our citizens by NOT showing us the footage of the four Americans in Fallujah who were burned, beaten, and dragged in the streets and eventually hung from a bridge, or the beheadings of Nicholas Berg and the others who preceded and followed him. So Buried in the Sand purports to right this great wrong by showing us all of it.” (end of excerpt)

Boo Allen, Film Critic for the Denton Record-Chroniccle (Texas):

“In obvious response to the recent run of liberally-slanted documentaries, such as Outfoxed and Uncovered, this narrowly focused film also looks to preach to the converted. A grim, uber-serious Mark Taylor hosts and narrates this look at various atrocities that supposedly led the United States into wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. To make his point, the film features one atrocity after another: beheadings, suicide bombings, chopped-off hands. Around 71 minutes. Not rated, but full of hard-to-stomach images.” (end of excerpt)

An internet search for “Rob Cartee” reveals very little. There is one curious entry, though - a Rob Cartee listed as one of the actors in a hardcore porn film called Carnal Secrets available at orgazmik.com. Could this be the same Rob Cartee?

The DVD is distributed by Westlake Entertainment Group, a company owned by Alan M. Shapiro (go to Fictitious Business Name Statement. Mr. Shapiro lives in Westlake Village, California.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:49 PM
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8. More from Faux - Commentary by Rick Leventhal for FOX Fan Central
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138844,00.html

A Graphic DVD
Commentary by Rick Leventhal for FOX Fan Central

Nov. 17, 2004 10:44 a.m.

I recently watched a DVD (not sure if it qualifies as a “documentary”) filled with some of the most gruesome images ever captured on tape. There are scenes of Iraqis being tortured, their arms broken or chopped off or their tongues cut out (one after another obediently kneeling, being cut, and moving on for the next guy to take his place). There are public executions, including decapitations, firing squads, and worse. In one scene, two people are wrapped in sheets, buried to their waist, and stoned to death by a crowd.

There’s video of roadside and suicide truck bombs targeting Iraqi and U.S. soldiers, presumably shot by the insurgents who planned the attacks, and footage of the Western aid workers attacked in Fallujah, their charred bodies dragged through the streets and hung from a bridge as people cheered.

And there is extensive footage of beatings handed out by Iraqi guards, reportedly taking place at the now infamous Abu Ghraib prison. In fact, the film first shows the images of the alleged abuses of prisoners by U.S. soldiers, and then contrasts it with the whippings and torture perpetrated by Saddam’s men.

The images are not blurred out. The deaths and mutilations are almost certainly real. The goal, according to the producers of “Buried in the Sand,” is simple: “To bring back the reality of what is happening to our troops and the way these people not only treat their own people, but how they treat Americans and what they want for our society,” Rob Cartee, the Executive Producer of the project, told me. “They would like nothing better than to see an Islamic regime rule the entire world.”

Cartee says this isn’t about exploiting carnage for personal gain. So far, while he says he’s sold tens of thousands of copies, he’s only at the break-even point, and money, he claims, didn’t motivate the movie. Cartee says he was angered by Michael Moore’s portrayal of pre-war Iraq in “Fahrenheit 9/11” as an “Islamic paradise,” and believes the graphic and shocking footage in “Buried in the Sand” will serve as an equalizer.

“It’s time to put this stuff out on the market and let the American people know what our soldiers are going through and what 99% of the people in the Middle East are going through and the way they’ve been treated and the atrocities that have been perpetrated against them for generations,” Cartee told me, saying he hopes the film builds support for our troops and support for democracy to take hold in the region, which he believes will make life better for the people there.

It’s quite possible that this video COULD have that effect on people. The graphic, brutal images will likely make people sick to their stomachs, and very, very angry with the people carrying out the murders and mutilations.

Some stores, including Shell gas stations and the Virgin megastores in New York have pulled the DVD from shelves because of complaints, but it’s available on the Web. If you choose to watch, consider yourself forewarned. It won’t be a pleasant experience.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:44 PM
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7. Hey, if the Repukes can force a pharmacy to keep an employee who
refuses to dispense birth-control pills (or the morning-after pill), ergo refusing to fill a patient's prescription,

WHY THE FECK CAN'T WE PRESSURE THIS SHELL STATION OWNER TO GROW SOME BALLS AND REFUSE TO CARRY THE G.D. VIDEO?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:56 PM
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12. We can.
But do not limit thinking to small retail outlets, go for the corporation.

"Some stores, including Shell gas stations and the Virgin megastores in New York have pulled the DVD from shelves because of complaints, but it’s available on the Web. If you choose to watch, consider yourself forewarned. It won’t be a pleasant experience."

See #8.
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:54 PM
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10. wonder if it was financed with US tax dollars
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:55 PM
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11. Liberto (Italy) review
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hnsez Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 01:57 PM
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13. Smells a FOIA request?
Edited on Mon Feb-07-05 01:58 PM by hnsez
The Italian media is 100% run by their own neocon.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 04:47 PM
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15. How much you wanna bet the next "Tim McVeigh" psycho-Repuke
has several worn-out copies of this "training video" in his basement, surrounded by a sticky substance on the floor right in front of his easy chair?
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-05 04:49 AM
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16. Death Porn is still Porn
Just more attempts to control the masses using Hate and Fear.
The Reprobate's are good at that.
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