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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:22 PM
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The rise and fall of Hillary Clinton, Assassi-Bitch

The rise and fall of Hillary Clinton, Assassi-Bitch


Interesting. What was a blog and cable-news shriek-fest on Friday night about Hillary Clinton’s comment on Democratic primaries in June and/or assassination threat had by Sunday turned into a rather sedate affair, at least among mainstream print columnists.

What happened? Here’s a big guess: People -- reporters and normal people alike -- got a chance to actually watch the video of Clinton’s Argus Leader interview.

And there was no there there.

America’s premier-league media was faked out by the Drudge Report’s spinning red siren. Again. In neuro-cognitive terms, this is called no carryover of learning. Our press is developmentally impaired.

Even Politico.com has fessed up big time, although somehow the mess is still Clinton’s fault.This is Politico’s John Harris detailing the exquisite care that is taken in the high-speed delivery of really bad journalism….

Here is what I was thinking: Wow. Maybe she has come unhinged? It’s not as though such macabre thoughts have never occurred to me, but for Clinton to give public voice to such a scenario is bizarre. This is going to be a big story and is almost certainly going to shadow and quite likely accelerate the final chapter of her presidential campaign.


So, with a presumably totally whacked out Clinton now decapitating her own presidential campaign and no doubt jeopardizing her Senate seat as well, does Harris pause to think: hmmm, maybe we should get more info about this? (Very simple answer: no)

<<major snip>>

(T)he Politico people briefly noted, and snickered, that the stupid Associated Press had completely missed this dramatic unhinging of a presidential candidate in its filed story on the Argus Leader interview.

I’m no journalist but that AP story just might have been a big tip-off. But what do I know, I had one course in journalism and that was in high school.

Perhaps half an hour after the story broke Martin called me back over to his desk. It turned out the Argus Leader had video of its big interview. I huddled over Martin’s computer as we watched.


Sweet Jesus, there’s always a tape.

It was a deflating experience.

The RFK remarks were deep in a 20-minute clip of an otherwise routine conversation. Then, once we actually got to the relevant portion of the video, it was hardly an electric moment.


Hardly an electric moment. God how that keeps rolling around in my head. Isn’t it ironic. Clinton’s interview wasn’t even as electric and riveting as Keith Olbermann’s Ted Baxter delivery of his Special Comment, Hillary Clinton, Assassi-Bitch.

Nonetheless, it’s still all Clinton’s fault.

But it was also clear that Clinton’s error was not in saying something beyond the pale but in saying something that pulled from context would sound as if it were beyond the pale.


Clinton talked. She said something. She said something that pulled from context would sound as if it were beyond the pale.

You have to admit, the bitch had it coming to her.

Grace Nearing at Scriptoids
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NOTE: This post is about journalism in general and political reporting in particular. It is not about any wonderful/awful candidate whom you may be idolizing/despising at the moment.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:25 PM
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1. I think I see a trend here..
Hmmm. The second thread in as many minutes citing that politico may be experiencing remorse.

Meeting must be over.
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:28 PM
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3. Is the thread in the Media forum?
Edited on Mon May-26-08 10:30 PM by Miss Authoritiva
Which forum is the thread in? Thanks.

And, yes, Politico.com is very antsy about this. Who knows, maybe they actually care about their reputation -- such as it is.

Oh, and if there was a meeting, I wasn't invited. Typical, just typical.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:36 PM
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5. Here you go --
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:43 PM
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7. Thanks again.
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Miss Authoritiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:26 PM
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2. Please, please, please
Please read the entire Politico.com article. It is a real eye-opener.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:35 PM
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4. Faked out, my ass.
If she had said, "Good morning," they would have made a stink about it. "She enjoys being in mourning. Obviously, she wants someone to die."

There wasn't any there there. But what is there, is the stink of Obama's ambition and his willingness to trash a woman, any woman to get what he wants. Has Alice Palmer endorsed him yet?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:39 PM
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6. I preferred the "Catastrophic Event" ..
phraseology to the RFK assassination thing.

the sky will open, the light will come down, a lightening bolt will strike Senator Obama, and the celestial choirs will be singing my name.


Interview with Clinton: One Day at a Time
Thursday, Mar. 06, 2008
TIME: Can you envision a point at which--if the race stays this close--Democratic Party elders would step in and say, "This is now hurting the party and whoever will be the nominee in the fall"?

CLINTON: No, I really can't. I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot longer. We all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated in June in L.A.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1719900,00.htm


Clinton campaign on ropes

BY JOHN GUERRIERO
Published: May 08. 2008 6:00AM
Murray, who has supported Bill and Hillary Clinton since 1991, said these are tough times for people like him who are in the Clinton camp but want to unify the party.

"The sense is, absent some catastrophic event that would take place in this campaign, it's going to be very difficult to see a path to victory for Hillary
given what happened" Tuesday, Murray said.
http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080508/NEWS02/805080437


Sun May 11, 2008
Analysis: Could Clinton land the VP nomination?

Several Clinton associates say there is still a ray of hope among some in her campaign: that a "catastrophic" revelation about Obama might make it possible for her to win the presidential nomination.
But barring that, Hillary and Bill Clinton recognize that her candidacy is being abandoned and rejected by superdelegates whom she once expected to win over and that, even if she were to win the popular vote in combined primary states, she will almost certainly be denied the nomination.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/10/bernstein.clinton/index.html?section=cnn_latest

CBSNews.com Reports: N.Y. Senator Now Faces Nearly Impossible Odds To Capturing Democratic Nomination
May 7, 2008

Clinton's Path To Victory Slipping Away
There is one scenario which does work for Clinton and that’s a massive movement of superdelegates leaving Obama and supporting her. The party leaders could do that, but it would take some unforeseen development in the race between now and the convention for them to do so. Obama, in some way, would have to be rendered so unelectable that the party rejects him at the convention. That’s not much to hang a hat on but it’s starting to look like her best option.

And even that might not be a viable option, said Joe Trippi. “Even if the catastrophic thing existed or happened, if she were perceived to have caused it, I think it would end her campaign too,” Trippi said. I don’t think there’s any way now for her to gain the nomination. She’s at the point now where if she tries to make a case against Obama, it will actually speed up superdelegates joining his cause just to shut the campaign down.”

But Trippi notes that the Obama campaign and Democratic leaders are still likely to give Clinton the room she needs to go forward on her own terms, provided that she does so in a positive manner. “I think there’s lots of tolerance for her going on, running the table into the convention and having a presence there,” he said. “But if she actually tries to compete in the trenches for the nomination in a way that looks like it’s damaging the nominee … I don’t think there will be any tolerance for that at all.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/07/politics/main4078586.shtml
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:46 PM
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8. Like we're supposed to think "nothing to see here" just because Politico is remorseful?
For the record, a lot of people, Olbermann included, saw the video of that interview Friday, and did not at ALL conclude that "there was no there there." And Olbermann is hardly an acolyte of the Drudge Report.

For those who did conclude there was no there there, maybe they just can't get upset about someone saying something that stupid unless she LOOKS "unhinged" or "whacked out." If she makes her unacceptable statement with a straight face, well then...no problem! It's just Keith Olbermann ranting and raving like Ted Baxter...HE's unhinged. Not Hillary. Right? At least that's what someone who took one course in journalism in high school had to say.

I don't know who the hell "Grace Nearing" is, but "blogging idiot" sounds like a fair description.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 10:59 PM
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9. K&R
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-26-08 11:04 PM
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10. Has anybody else noticed
that it is always Hillary supporters who call her "bitch"?
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