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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:00 PM
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The USA political center is so far to the right that...


...Obama is labeled as a "liberal". Some even call him a "radical leftist".

That is how fucking stupid the political discourse is in the mainstream USA media.


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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:02 PM
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1. Yep, it's stupid and dangerous. And worst is, it's part of the plan, and many Americans
are being sucked right in ...
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napoleon_in_rags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:03 PM
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2. The entire goal has been about moving the "Overton Window" to the right.
It reaches a certain point where you don't care anymore, keep taking it into that black hole of collapse. Your worst punishment can be yourself...
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:04 PM
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3. Really stupid.
Nixon was more liberal than Obama. That is fucking scary.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:04 PM
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4. K and R, such a simple statement, yet so true
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:06 PM
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5. The joke's on us.


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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:18 PM
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6. I tend to believe it is propaganda and rigged elections myself.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:20 PM
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7. It might help to start seeing this show
as a Simulation. We have a massive, organized manipulation of abstractions. Those abstractions play on the ones that we still have from the past. While we struggle with the cognitive dissonance and the Hegelian dialect, the social engineers shift the markers and mutate the meaning.

There seem to be two ways to manipulate and manage masses of people. One is through the manufacturing of consent and the other is by brute force, intimidation and violence.

I have noticed that the Republicans have become quite adept at projection in various ways -- much of what we see in their behavior is interior denial projected onto others and into law. They make a reality in their collective heads and present or force it upon us with extremism and sensationalistic fallacies.

However, while we are trying to figure out what the heck their last wave of propaganda and shape-shifting was about, they move on to another extreme and alternate-reality tactic. That makes their strategy difficult to pin-down and repel. Knowing this aspect of their game plan does help us to grapple with it and develop a better resistance and remedy.

On the Democratic side of the game, a significant number of these critters seem to be playing docile enablers which goes under the radar and usually incites nothing more than questions of their intestinal fortitude. In other words, it is far better to be considered weak or spineless than an enabler of the abusive party. We might as well call them victims for that matter.

Yet, we do have some noble and consistently righteous public servants out there who embody what we actually expect and what is understood to be true representation. We might want to put more support into their efforts and hold them up as models. Their have been many "worst" this and that articles and sites. Why not have the ten best politicians who represent us and why they matter campaign? There are some, I am sure, who come to mind.

Hold them up! Laud their accomplishments and veracity.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:23 PM
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8. When Democrats sprint to the Right after election,
Republicans have to sprint further Right to differentiate.

After 18 years of this... well, here we are.

We need to make it clear to Democrats that this garbage won't be tolerated, and the only way to do that is to primary them with extreme prejudice.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 11:24 PM
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9. The John Birch Society has always been insanely right and no one took it seriously.
Now the Kochs, whose dad helped found the JBS, are bringing the whole United States discourse over to the right of the JBS!

It is absolutely mad but they are doing it and I fear that they may actually win.

There is some push back from the public but the push forward is always twice as strong.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:17 AM
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10. This is Obama biggest problem: The Center is over on the Right
Field. When one is negotiating, in order to improve
your chances you want the opposition in your court or
at least both you in a neutral place.

'Since he was elected, Obama has operated on the Republican
Turf and guess what we have gotten RW Legislation.

The Center should be a space between the two parties not
the Republican Space.
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-11 12:49 PM
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11. If Obama is a radical leftist,
then I already overthrew the government and we are currently living in a Socialist utopia. NOT.
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