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goofticket Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:48 PM
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Why did the Republicans start the 'hate America' lingo anyhow?
We hear alot about haters, Bush haters, America haters, freedom haters, it seems everyone hates these days. So who started this hate?
The Republicans did, way back in the early days of infant neocons. They couldn't use commie and pinko anymore, as that was sooo Joe Mc Carthy era.
They had to come up with a new schtick. And 'hater' worked, they could apply it to religions, races, and of course ideology. Specifically their own warped sense of conservatism.
If anyone questions a neocon, he (as they have few women in the actual club) does not respond, but answers with another question. Do you hate America?
It worked brilliantly with the press, as anyone who actually answered such a question must have some hate for America. Once they found it worked, they went hog wild with it.
A question regarding land managment and clear cut forestry could easily be retorted with, Why do you hate American loggers? Are you against business?
A question regarding Islam has brought out the best in the neocon, who has always had hopes of playing Catholic during the Spanish Inquisition. If you cannot declare, under oath, that you are an evangelical christian, similar to James Dobson, or Falwell, you certainly must be an atheist, and all atheists hate America.
For neocon Republicans, it's their own personal bottom line that counts. If they can make money at anything, the rest doesn't matter. If they make money on war, great!...on fake security after 911, great! And if they can get a government no-bid contract, more greater!
In the quest for self-interest and personal gain, a neocon will decide what the goal is and work backward. Retroactive laws, off shore accounts and simple denial can delay more time, which is just more time to make more money.
Of the people only means those that can make a neocon money and fame.
Neocons love cable news shows, ghost authors for books and speaking engagements. They can say anything, which is only how bad the other guys are. Defining the opposition doesn't really define anything other than the neocon's avoidance of answering a question. And repeating it as often as you can is how a neocon can actually make a lie seem like a truth.
Sadaam was really the only person who attacked the US on Sept 11th. He did it with the help of Iran.
They really were all working together to hate America.
Now that the neocons are seen as nothing more than a flash in the pan, a one hit wonder of incompetent, incoherent profiteers; the rest of the world does hate America more than the pre-neocon days. They did sell the plan well. But the rest of the world actually likes the American people, respects our freedoms but has serious questions as to why we elected these people whose only message has been promoting hate. They liked it when America was a caring and generous nation.

As of today, almost 60% of us hate ourselves, according to the neocons.
I guess alot of people do hate America. But only the Neocon's America.
The rest of it's pretty damn cool.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:51 PM
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1. Answer to your question
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 03:52 PM by Bluzmann57
It's all they've got. They cannot win on issues alone and they know it, so therefore, we all "hate America". In reality, we all love America more than they ever will.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:57 PM
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3. Some of It Is Projection, Too
There are people in this democracy that cannot tolerate the concept that all men and women are created equal. It sticks in their craws. So they try to undo the Constitution and 230 years of increasing equality by turning the US into a fascist paradise. They truly hate America as commonly understood--and project this onto everyone else.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:38 PM
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7. They go for emotions when the cannot win on facts
because the facts aren't there ...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:54 PM
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2. The Hate Meme Is Backfiring
Thoughtful people, when they hear that somebody "Hates" America, ask the dangerous question: "Why? Why do people suddenly hate America?"

And when they start getting sensible answers, they realize that American policies are to blame. They start to examine these policies, in light of the gasoline price bubble, the terror alerts, the crashing economy, and realize that the GOP has screwed them over royally, as well as most everyone else in the world.

And that's the beginning of the end of this NeoCon Con.

So mote it be!
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appilette Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:05 PM
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4. Why did the Republicans start the 'hate America' lingo anyhow?
Ahh.  A Question.  Well because Bush is a Dangerous Man.  No
wonder the Republicans need to support him.

Best I know of the Bush that is arround here is that he
handles a Taxi.  And is probably fast asleep.

Clearly after all this time, both Bushs are.  In fact by now,
they might even be looking toward the Familly to produce a
further Bush.  What the Politics would that be.?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:06 PM
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5. Originated with Jeanne Kirkpatrick - "San Francisco Democrats"
Kirkpatrick (one of the original neocons) attacked the Democrats who nominated Mondale in San Francisco for being critical of Reagan's foreign policy - particularly Central American policy - establishing the Nicaraguan Contras to fight the Sandinistas. Of course we know how that adventure ended - the Iran Contra scandal. Kirkpatrick dubbed the "San Francisco Democrats" as the "Blame America First" crowd - conveniently blurring the line between "America" and a particular president's foreign policy. She made it acceptable to attack foreign policy dissidents as unpatriotic, not that it hadn't been done before - Nixon was a master at it. But I think the current Republican mantra about designating anyone questioning the "war on terrorism" as an "America hater" comes directly from Kirkpatrick's "San Francisco Democrats."
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appilette Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:10 PM
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6. Originated with Jeanne Kirkpatrick - "San Francisco Democrats"
Ofcourse one should always be sure that one is paying one's
own Insurance.  And not somebody Elses.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 03:01 PM
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8. Republicans don't ask themselves questions like this..
Are we a nation of laws or men?

This is a question which divides the foundation of our party. A person who believes that we are a nation of laws says in a nation of men one man has the power. A person who believes we are a nation of men would argue that laws are only another product of the majority of voters. A person who believes we are a nation of laws would argue that men in government only have the power to enforce and obey the law. A person who believes we are a nation of men would argue that men ultimately make and change all of those laws. A person who believes we are a nation of laws would argue that morals shape the law not men. A person who believes we are a nation of men would argue that morals are shaped by men, thus morals are just as flawed. A person who believes we are a nation of laws would argue that the Constitution and Bill of Rights protects life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for all men. A person who believes we are a nation of men would argue that men ultimately abolished slavery, not the bill of rights.

What do you think? ask a Republican, and the question is treated as nothing but a joke. Too many Republicans view the law as nothing more than a standard for judging others. They scream loudly when they get a speeding ticket, when they get locked up for drug use, and when they are audited by the IRS. But when it happens to someone else, the Republican views that person as a crook or a terrorist. IMO laws are made because everyone is flawed, but a neocon can never accept that he or she is flawed, only that the government is. lol..but never mind who controls our government. ;)
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