Please help refute "Clinton Actual History" email...

[quisp]

Just recieved this email from a mouth breathing ditto head I work with and I need a little help refuting it. Most of it is pretty easy to knock down, and I'll certainly point out "Commander Flight Suit's" actual war time record. The PS is interesting, though. Why do they not want Senator Clinton to "even think about running for President"? What are they afraid of?

Any and all help is appreciated.
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Subject: Clinton Actual History

Billy And His Bride

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08,
1964, accepting all contractual conditions of
registering for the draft. Given Selective Service
Number 3 26 46 228.

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July
28, 1969.

Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not
inducted into the military.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the
United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under
authority of Col. E. Holmes.

Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of
enlistment.

Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at
the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as
enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E.
Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest
under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) "registrant who has
failed to report...remain liable for induction".

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn
December 1,1969, but anyone who has already been
ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a
fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General
(1976), while a fugitive from justice.

Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from
Carter.

Bill Clinton (FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON) ever to
serve as President.

All these facts come from Freedom of Information
requests, public laws, and various books that have
been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which
killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton
promised that those responsible would be hunted down
and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed
five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that
those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia,
which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military
personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible
would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa,
which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised
that those responsible would be hunted down and
punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed
17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that
those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated
3,000 people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are
now dead would be alive today.

AN INTERESTING QUESTION:

This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in
show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate
question. There are two men, both extremely wealthy.
One develops relatively cheap software and gives
billions of dollars to charity. The other sponsors
terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the
Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down
Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama
bin Laden? THINK ABOUT IT!

It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8
Million for her memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million
for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people
who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything
about past events while under oath!

Sincerely,
Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)
P.S. Please forward this to as many people as you can!
We don't want this woman to even THINK of running for
President.

[meegbear]

1. here's two sites

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/politics/clintondraft.asp
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/clintondraft.html

[RandomKoolzip]

2. Direct your mouth breathing friend to....

Snopes.com

They debunk that bullshit there.

[Caution]

3. snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/politics/clintondraft.asp

quick snippet:

That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all beyond dispute. However, the timeline quoted above jumps the tracks when it labels Clinton a "felon," because none of his actions, no matter how unethical or morally reprehensible, were illegal. When Clinton agreed in July of 1969 to enter the advanced ROTC program at the University of Arkansas, his draft board rescinded his induction notice and reclassified him with a reservist's deferment. That he later changed his mind in October 1969 and opted to forego the ROTC program and be reclassified 1-A did not constitute a "failure to report" or make him "AWOL," because he was not due to begin ROTC training until the summer of 1970, and he had the ROTC director's permission to return to England in the meanwhile. At the time of his 1-A re-classification in October 1969 the previous induction notice was no longer in effect, and he was not subsequently re-drafted.

<snip>

Likewise, President Carter's executive order of 21 January 1977, which provided pardons and amnesty for those convicted or suspected of violating the Military Selective Service Act between 1964 and 1973 did not apply to Clinton because he committed no such violation.

bullshit basically

[wryter2000]

4. Read Franken's book

Reach the chapter in Franken's book on Operation Ignore. In it, he describes how many terrorists Clinton did catch and how many terrorist attempts he did thwart and then contrasts it with Bush's total lack of attention to the problem. It's utterly damning. I can't believe Whistle Ass isn't in jail, I swear.

I don't have it at work with me, but it shows pretty clearly that Bush* should have stopped 9/11 from happening. For right now, you could point to the 8/6/01 intelligence briefing that Bush got that there was likely to be an attack using commercial jets. Add that the WTC had already been attacked once (and Clinton did get those guys, they're in NY jails right now). It wouldn't be too hard to figure out that it would likely be a target again.

Someone asked Condi on TV about commercial jets as missiles, and she denied that anyone in the White House was thinking in those directions. The 8/6/01 briefing proves that she was LYING.

[Grins]

5. Well, you got your answers..

The replies you have received directing you to Snopes, or some of other myth breaking sites are right on the money. That would have been my answer, only I would add that make sure you do a "reply all" so that everyone he sent it to learns that he is a raving idiot.

Let me change directions:

In what branch of the service did your "friend" serve?
How many of his loyal friends signed up after 9/11?
After Afghanistan?
RIGHT NOW when the military truly needs "high calibre" people ready to serve back-to-back tours of duty in a combat zone?

Tell him to be a "Real" American - join up!! Don't let age bother him. The Big Green Machine will take him. I have a friend that joined just before 9/11 and he was 34! He even went airborne!

If he didn't serve, his kids (male and female) aren't serving, or he's not heading for the Army recruiter himself, call him out.

And, just so you know, my number in the draft lottery was 308 and I still went in. A lot of my friends at the time wanted no part of the military and tried like hell to get out of the draft. They're still my friends and I hold them in no disregard. The tried like hell to get into Guard units to avoid the active Army, but most were turned down because all those units were at full strength. That's also OK. I understand. They tired, they failed; now they prayed.

What's not OK is having daddy pull strings to get you into units that were fully staffed - and even had waiting lists. So, how'd you do that Mr. Quayle? Mr. Bush? Mr. Cheney? Congressman DeLay? Senator Craig? Senator McConnell? Rush Limbaugh? Senator (SPIT!) Chambliss? Etc......?

[Lefty48197]

6. I'd like to make a proposal to the administrators:

We'd read a lot less of the RW BS, if people weren't allowed to post topics after only 7 posts.

[Garage Queen]

7. Jeepers, you're not saying that the poster was actually trying to

draw ATTENTION to the email by posting it in its ENTIRETY? you mean they weren't REALLY trying to debunk it? Oh, my!

I'm SHOCKED, I tell you; shocked! :evilgrin:

[Ashcroft Kutcher]

8. I despise neocon forwarded work emails

I get these things all the time from the white bread bozo's I work with due to my picture of Bubba I have in my office space. This is the way they have political discussions.

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[swinney]

11. 113 truths on bill clinton

Tried to get Universal Health Care
National Health Care Costs rising at 10% per annum. Cut to 3%
Deficit Reduction Package
Crime Bill
100,000 cops on street—crime down down down
Welfare Reform-- Mend do not end. GOP helped bit time
80% increase in child welfare payments
Job Growth-Record 236,000 per month. (Reagan/Bush 167,000)
Largest percentage of Americans working in history
Largest Home Ownership in history
Record number of small business formations
Tax Cut for 15 million working families
Family and Medical Leave Act
Defense Reinvest and Conversion—Bush enjoying weapons created by Clinton
Direct loan programs for students
Guts to put promises in a book "Putting People First"-58 promises in book. Took action on 56 in first two years.
Second best record in history for getting legislation through Congress in first to years. LBJ number one.
Reinvented Government—cut payroll
Fewest number of civilians on federal payroll in 36 years
Attacked cop killing nasty rifle association.
Attacked the cancer inducing tobacco industry
Promoted a global effort to ban abusive forms of child labor
Loan 12.8 Billion to Mexico. Made 800 Million profit. Kept Mexico afloat.
Wash. Post kept list of campaign promises. 162. Took action on 96% in first two years.
Took on prejudice toward other Americans in military
Took on his own Southern Baptist Church
Hard smart work in Middle East and Bosnia-Kosovo
Honored with all of the following:
Dove of Peace Award
Rabin-Peres Peace Award
Gandhi Peace Award
Order of Good Hope Award
Nominated for Nobel Peace Award
Northern Ireland Peace Agreement
Lifeaholics of America Award for Quarter Century "Working for a Life Not Just A Living".
First President to visit Northern Ireland
Cleanup of Toxic sites. Record
Increasing weekly earnings
Shoo Shoo Saddam get away from Kuwait
Stopping Haitians from drowning enroute to freedom
First to visit South Africa
First to make a determined effort to help the African continent come together and grow together
Taxing top 1.2% of very wealthy to get Zoom Zoom Boom economy
Stopping Republicans in the House from raiding Medicare of 181 Billion
Stopping Republicans raid on Medicaid
Stopping Republicans raid on education
Stopping Republicans attack on environment
Largest increase in Education funding since GI Bill
Increased funding for Head Start
Nafta.. A success until the Peso went south
Submitting 8 budgets close to rate of inflation
Brady Bill
Gaat
Assault Weapons Ban
Telling Japan "You take our auto parts or we will apply tariffs on you
California Desert Protection
Forest Management Plan for Northwest
Restoration of Florida Everglades
Preservation of land in Utah
Major increase in funding for homeless
Motor Voter Act
Lobbying Reform Effort. Handshake with Newt who reneged
Pressure to get Campaign Finance Reform.
National Export Strategy. Unbelievable success.
Over 250 Trade pacts
Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation Pact
Summit of Americas
Super 301
Chemical Weapons Ban Treaty.
Bottom Up Review of Military
Agreement with Cuba to stop flow of immigrants to USA.
Ameri-Corps
Reduced Nuclear Threat Around the World
Community Banking Act
FEMA used as an active participant and a leader in disaster relief
Tax on well off social security beneficiaries
100,000 new teachers effort
5,000 new classroom effort
50% of classes thru K-12 on internet
Fourth Graders improvement on world tests
Lifetime Learning Opportunity Program
Controls on Spending and Borrowing
Pension Protection Act of 1994
Record high consumer confidence
Very, very, very low Misery Index
National Agenda on Racial Prejudices
First to get African-American unemployment under 10%
Balanced Budget
Record Corporate profits
Record Bank profits
Record Savings and Loan profits
Never whining despite non-sop smears and attacks
Not having a Mean Bone in his body per Historian David Maraniss
Not knowing how to hate
Classing others as "opponents" not "enemies"
Inviting your attackers to the White House functions
Inviting your defeated opponent Bob Dole to visit troops at Christmas
A national attack on hate crimes
Fighting to protect "legal" immigrants from Republicans in the House.
Fighting hard for Fast Track legislation
Kennedy and Kassenbaum Portability of Insurance
Lowest interest rates in 30 years
Allowing millions of homeowners to refinance home loans at lower (much) rates
Lowest unemployment in 25 years
Lowest inflation in 25 years
Lowest welfare rolls in 27 years
Lowest crime Rates in 25 years
First balanced budget sent to Congress in 29 years
Protecting worker pensions (repeat?)
Opposed ban on "Late Term Abortions"
A stock market which passed a 1,000 mark six times
Greatest growth in federal revenues in history
Played Saxophone and Smoked Peace Pipe, instead of beating War Drums like____.
One of History's all time workers for Peace
President in a year when Fortune Magazine classified it as "Greatest Economy in the History of the world"
Popularity jump in the midst of a scandal.
President with highest peacetime popularity in Asia, Africa, Russia and Europe.
Highest popularity of any president at end of fifth year in office
One of the most highly regarded First Lady in History.
One of the most highly regarded Vice-President in History