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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:57 PM
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Republicans doom us all to the fate of a new "Roman Empire"

The policy of attack first and invasion means the heavy reliance and use of the Military not only as a offensice Weapon but as a Police Force for new territories gained.

This reliance means that an already stretched military and solderiery has to do more military and have less. In order to keep on invading and conquering territory for "their" intrest, the United States will need a larger military. Since are military is volunter, only so many people will join.
In this case more American citiszens will be needed, since their plan to "use" the international community as a "psuedo" mercenary force was dead on arrival since they made their true motives apparent on the rush to invade Iraq and secure long-term strategic influence in the region and control over oil resources and wealth.

Since illegal immigration is already high, and as well as the constant out-sourcing of American jobs to other countries, so Multi-national corporations can pay cheaper wages, this leaves less americans with a steady, or at least realiable and livable source of income (much like the dynamic of romes us eof cheap slave labor before their republic fell). This dynamic will make it more likely that more (younger) Americans and non-citisenz will join th armed forces for monetary gain, thus giving the military more human assets, but at the same time destorying the middle class.

The deficet is a ploy used to cut most government spending for social programs and to keep taxes more equal, Gorver Norquist is the leader of this, less democracy and power for the middle and poor ,means more power for the PNAC since their plan is dictorial in nature.

The PNAC and the Grover Norquist types are feeding off each others lust for their agenda.


Thank you neo-conservative and Republican lurkers, and brainwashed whores, a good many of you are traitors and don't know it, you have doomed yourself and us all to the fate of the Roman Republic.
You help a very small group of very rich men destroy our country, but this does not matter as long as you can bash liberals and the left for your own mistakes and your selfish self-serving agenda.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:02 PM
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1. "Our plan is to become Rome in the next Bible"
...as John Stewart so cogently put it.
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:05 PM
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2. Ahhhh yes, but remember what untimately happened to the Roman
military. They eventually decided that they could pick and choose who they wanted as emperor, and essentially took over control of the political 'machine'. Is was not long until the empire disintegrated after that. George Santayana is laughing and laughing (and probably shedding a few tears as well).
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:12 PM
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3. No empire....
ever survives long after its greatest victory
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:17 PM
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4. I don't think repugs care if US goes the way
of the Roman Empire. Just so they have their money and their power. Hell, they don't have any principles beyond that.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 03:03 PM
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5. doomed to bankruptcy and a police state...
bu$hco doesn't even run a competent empire....
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-25-03 03:30 PM
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6. "Well, other than that Rome...
...how did you like the President's fiddle playing?"
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:47 AM
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7. Its gonna backfire
It would take greater brutality and cynicism than Chimpie and his friends are prepared to use - unless we are headed for 1984. I think the NEO CONs would like to carve out an American Empire. I wish them luck - they can't even manage what they have grabbed so far. We are going to end up declaring victory and leaving Iraq - and the Middle East will go its own way.

But fear a retribution is coming to us for what our government is doing already.

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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:50 PM
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8. Honestly
I think it is more likely that they will start a program of forced christainization and ethnic cleansing of iraq and afganistan then that they will pull out.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-03 10:50 AM
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9. The second that started

At the moment I think that is highly unlikely (although with their fanatical chrisitan backing I can see were you are coming from).

No, the Neo-Cons want to keep the United States on-top by any means neccassary. If that means imperialization, then so be it. Imperialization with genocide, ethnic cleansing, and forced christianization in 2003 by the world only super power would mean the beginning of the end for our country. The rest of the world would economicaly shut-us-off, starve the heart of our power, our economy.

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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-03 06:23 PM
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11. and
we would simply conquer and forcably christianize and neoconize the rest of the world.
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