I confess; I DO want revenge for Clinton's impeachment

[php1949]

Poll after poll after poll provided proof to the Republican congress of 1998/99 that the majority of Americans were opposed to the impeachment of an effective president, for cheating on his wife. And yet the self-absorbed, arrogant Republican congress backed OUR president into a corner and impeached him, against the will of the American people. And now the Republican Party is accusing us of playing dirty politics because we would like the truth about the military records of the man who sent 535 Americans to die for his lies. Too bad. I for one, will never let the question of Bush's military record die. Here is more reading...

"Few Can Offer Confirmation Of Bush's Guard Service"
"Friends and Acquaintances Lack Firsthand Knowledge"

By Manuel Roig-Franzia and Lois Romano
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, February 15, 2004; Page A01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42735-2004Feb14.html

[KoKo]

1. Oh yes......I do want revenge. As Dan Rather quoted from someone......

"Revenge is a Plate Served Best...Cold!"

Well, that plate is really cold by now....and I want REVENGE!!! GIVE IT TO ME! :D....the truth.....

But, my REVENGE comes with a Request for REFORM.

[boobooday]

2. Ah, but revenge means

only good things in this case. Our best revenge is to cancel all their filthy destructive policies and build our responsible state, which promotes peace and freedom and democracy and not death and war and greed.

So our revenge is really virtuous. :-) It's a healthy revenge.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[agingdem]

3. Revenge...

I want revenge for Clinton's impeachment AND the 2000 election debacle. However, I don't necessarily want to personally inflict the revenge (except with my Dem vote) but I want to witness it when it happens. I'm from Texas and I've had to deal with Bush crap for a very long time.

[Name removed]

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[kclown]

5. Purjory?

Try perjury.

[9215]

12. I think Heady meant "purejoy".

IMHO, hee, hee. :bounce:

[php1949]

7. You are the one who needs to get a clue - freeper!

The whole trial was bullshit. The very fact that there was a Grand Jury to decide if someone cheated on their wife made the whole thing a farce. Anyone who considers that witch hunt legitimate is a moron.

[php1949]

8. Perjury for lying about a marital affair?

Maybe you should go over to the Free Republic web site.

[Cary]

10. Take it back a step further, and Clinton should have never been . . .

called upon to take that deposition in the first place.

Famous last words from the same Supreme Court that appointed Bush President: the civil trial would never affect Clinton's ability to perform as President.

The whole thing was manufactured, HeadyHoosier. It was one big smear and it was all starting with Kenneth Starr. How would you like to have a special prosecutor with no limits and an unlimited budget looking into every nook and cranny of your life?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

6. I want revenge for 2000 (m)

and I am going to get it, so help me God.

[IconoclastIlene]

9. Revenge so sweet.

I don't want to stoop to Repubs level to win an election...show them the right way, by a landslide in November!!

No need to stoop to conquer!!

[Vogon_Glory]

11. I Also Want Revenge For Clinton's Impeachment & 2000

I also want revenge for the Republican Congress' impeachment of former president Clinton and for the 2000 election debacle, but I want revenge in a lawful, constitutional manner. I would very much like to see a Democratic presidential administration blow the lid off of Boosh regime skulduggery and show the voting public just what those people were up to. I would also like to see at least enough and more Democrats elected to the House of Representatives and the US Senate to put a halt to the corrupt, reactionary right-wing counterrevolution and roll it back.

I would find hope for schadenfreude in a Democratic administration. The current crop of Republican congressional representatives seems to have adopted a Leona Helmsly-esque attitude that rules and the rule of law are only for the little people. I suspect that Democratic prosecutors will find ample, plausible targets of opportunity for prosecution under existing legislation.

[Virginian]

13. The revenge I would love to see is a Landslide.

I would love to see this admin voted out of office by a landslide, even with Nader.

[MonicaR]

24. And at the same time..

The Dems get control of the House and Senate with veto proof majorities, and keep it for the next 40 years.

That would be sweet revenge

[monster618]

14. I definitely want revenge

They've had it coming for quite a while.

I like the attitude that the Democratic National Comittee Chairman Terry MacCauliffe (sp? is that his title?) is adopting. If they hit us, we hit them back, And then we HIT THEM AGAIN. Let's admit it, we let these Reps walk all over us. They pretty much allow themselves to be the only ones to play dirty. Well, NO MORE. Lets keep the issues flying at them faster than they can respond. Supersaturation. Keep them on the defensive.

[mermaid]

15. I Agree With The Kligon Proverb - Revenge Is A Dish Best Served Cold!

I, too, confess to wanting revenge against the evil GOP for thier impeachment of Clinton.

[ulTRAX]

16. GOP Coup

Clinton's impeachment was nothing more than a coup attempt by the Rabid Right. I don't think wanting to see Bush impeached is revenge. I believe it's clear he violated international law with his illegal invasion of Iraq.

[Kali]

17. can somebody come up with some quick numbers?

Not sure if this is exactly the right place, or if I could actually just go start a new thread yet, but I just got this irritating e-mail and want to reply soon to a bunch of smug ...:grr: nevermind, I just want the "bush version" facts if somebody has something. Here is the message:

Subject: Fw: The President Knew!



a.. Enron's chairman did meet with the president and the vice president in the Oval Office.

b.. Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years.

c.. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.

d.. The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.

e.. The corporation had access to the administration at its highest levels and even enlisted the Commerce and State
Departments to grease deals for it.

f.. The taxpayer-supported Export-Import Bank subsidized Enron for more than $600 million in just one transaction.
Scandalous!

g.. BUT...the president under whom all this happened WASN'T George W. Bush.
SURPRISE . It was Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!

Please pass this on so the whole country will know. The Media Won't.

[Kali]

18. got it on another string

thanks. just in case anybody else needs something:

Origins: The
debacle that is Enron will take years to unravel, and the end result will be that no one person or group or political party will be held to "blame" for the whole affair. Enron has been spreading around so much money and influence through its lobbying efforts for so many years -- among both Republicans and Democrats, in federal as well as in state governments -- that neither party can take the moral high ground here. As The San Francisco Chronicle reported:


Enron's tentacles ran so deep into Washington's political establishment that 71 sitting senators and nearly half of the current House of Representatives received Enron money during the last decade, including some who are now investigating the company's bankruptcy.

.......

.......
The Enron chairman stayed at the White House 11 times.
As Brendan Nyhan revealed in an article at Salon.com, Enron CEO Kenneth Lay was never an overnight visitor at the White House during the Clinton adminstration. But, according to Nyhan, "Lay did, however, stay at the White House when George H.W. Bush was president."
.......

.......

As for those supposedly shocking figures bandied about, such as:

Enron gave $420,000 to the president's party over three years. It donated $100,000 to the president's inauguration festivities.
Those numbers, even if accurate, don't come close to matching what has been reported about Enron's contributions to George W. Bush and the Republican party, such as this item from The Hartford Courant:

Since 1989, the Houston-based energy broker and its employees have made more than $5.7 million in contributions to federal candidates and political parties, nearly three-quarters of it to Republicans. Enron was George W. Bush's biggest contributor in the 2000 presidential campaign.
Nor do they match what The New York Times uncovered:

Enron, Arthur Andersen and Vinson & Elkins, a Houston law firm, are among the most generous contributors to Mr. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign. Enron has given more than $700,000 to Mr. Bush since 1993; no company has given him more. In addition, Enron's chairman, Kenneth L. Lay, was one of the "pioneers," raising more than $100,000 for Mr. Bush's e-mail campaign, and he and his wife gave a total of $10,000 to Mr. Bush's Florida recount fund. Enron and Mr. Lay also contributed a total of $200,000 to Mr. Bush's inaugural festivities.
If we're looking to pass out soap, we don't need to be discriminating -- there are plenty of dirty hands to go around here.
Last updated: 18 March 2002


The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/enron.htm

[monster618]

19. Those numbers are nothing...

...compared to what W gets from his supporters. He is probably going to be raising around $200,000,000 for his re-election campaign. That is mind boggling. That is ONE-FIFTH of a BILLION dollars, just for a campaign. I'm sure he is not getting the majority of that from regular blue collar Americans.

[dryan]

20. Can't erase the past...but then again

Even if a Democrat wins in November history can't be changed. Bill Clinton was impeached. Before anyone gets their bloomers in a wad (to use a Dixie expression) I happen to believe that the whole thing was a kangaroom court. I've already had a little bit or revenge though here in Florida when Bill McCollum -- one of the "House Managers" -- ran for the senate and was defeated. Now the jerk is running again!

[swinney]

21. I want revenge

Bill Clinton is one of nicest humans. Take away adultery and he is fantastic.

His life has been one of learning to serve.

He plays no favorites. No preferences.

No grudges.

No pettiness.

No hatred.

He does not want enemies.

He worked two jobs while at Georgetown to help his mom put him through college.

He worked three jobs at Yale.

Ever hear Bill Clinton whine?

Ever hear Bill Clinton demean others?

Ever hear Bill Clinton brag?

Folks! That is what is known as Character.

Conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations in a failed effort to destroy his administration.

Were this a South American nation it would have been called a coup attempt by political force.

It is a Black Mark on our democracy.

Republicans controlled the White house for 20 of 24 years prior to Clinton. They felt like they owned it. Clinton broke their hearts.

[Hippo_Tron]

22. I think we got revenge

Newt resigned in humiliation.

[JohnnyFianna1]

23. That's no revenge! We already knew that the "Neo-conservative revolution"

a little weak anyway, it was only a matter of time before Newt and his revolution would crumble. Technically, Bill Clinton was the FReepers revenge 4 Newt's humiliation.