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php1949 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 08:38 AM
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Bush jokes about the reason he sent our boys and girls to die
Imagine a president making jokes about the reason he sent almost 600 Americans to their death. That is what he is doing; making jokes about the weapons of mass destruction: "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere ... nope, no weapons over there ... maybe under here?"

Why hasn't he been impeached?

From the NY Newsday: "Polls: 5 key states tied Numbers show a statistical dead heat; Bush is criticized for his joke on Iraq weapons search"

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny- uscamp273725197mar27,0,5843187.story?coll=ny-nationalnews- headlines

Current US casualties:

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 08:51 AM
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1. Good God ...
imagine if Clinton had made a joke about the soldiers killed in Somalia.

They would have lynched him.

I have never been so embarrassed to be an American than I am right now.

Cheers
Drifter
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 11:05 PM
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23. Actually that joke goes ALL THE WAY BACK.....
....to a video he made for the Washington Correspondents Dinner in 2003!! I saw it on CSPAN, and it WASN'T funny THEN either!!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 09:42 AM
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2. Bush joking about WMD should be in the next ad ASAP. nt
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:34 AM
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4. I read another thread suggesting this...they talked about
MoveOn.org maybe trying for an ad like that. WOWWOWOWOWOWWO would THAT be damaging........ Geez, I'll be the heat and tension in the White House is sweltering right about now. Paint peeling, holes punched into walls etc. yikes.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 07:25 PM
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3. Bu$h is a joke.
:evilgrin:
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My2cents Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 10:51 PM
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5. know what Clinton said?!?!?
well, here's what Bill said....

Folks, I was going to make jokes about the House Republicans
tonight, about the managers. It wouldn't be fair, they're not here
to defend themselves. They're all at the Taliban Correspondents
Association Dinner. (Laughter.) You know, the House managers were
really unhappy with the Senate verdict. In fact, they're appealing
it to the judges in the Holyfield-Lewis fight. (Laughter.)



I don't know about you but kidding about the Taliban instead of DOING something so that a few years later killed 3000 people (some of which I knew) is just about as bad. But, this dinner is meant to poke fun and not at all intended to reflect your true feelings. Sometimes a laugh eases the pain better so I don't think either president was wrong if you keep what they said in context.
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monster618 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:12 PM
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8. I'm sorry, but the two do not compare
So far, 600+ American soldiers have died as a DIRECT result of Bush's war in Iraq, one in which he used the fact that Saddam had WMD as his number one reason for going to war. They have found none, so he jokes about it? "Hee, hee, look at me, I'm REALLY looking for WMD now!" The man has no concept of what is going on. People have died because HE sent them there.

As for Clinton, he did more to fight terrorism in any 9 given months of his presidency than Bush did in his first 9 months. I know you don't believe that, but consider this. The Bush administration is only turning over a select few documents to the 911 Commission that the Clinton administration handed over regarding terrorism. Hmmm... I wonder why? Why not hand over all of them? Because there might be something there that might make Bush look bad? Like that maybe the Clinton Admin. warned the Bush admin. about these terrorists, but they shrugged it off and focused on stem cells and missile defense instead? I don't know, you tell me.
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:31 PM
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9. Hey monster618! Welcome to DU!
Hope to see you posting around here more often! And don't worry about the poster you responded to. He won't be putting in his2cents anymore!

:thumbsup:
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monster618 Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 08:43 PM
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13. Thanks
Thanks for your welcome.

It just makes me sick how these Republicans like to blame everything on the Clinton Administration. I don't know if that's how this guy that posted felt, but he seemed to be saying that we shouldn't attack Bush for his idiotic behavior. The man (Bush) is an embarrassment.

I actually don't mind going head to head with these guys. In the end, their arguments always boil down to "I'm Republican, I'm Christian, I pray to God, therefore I'm a patriot and you're not!" That's why they go after John Kerry by saying he didn't deserve his Purple Heart Medals, when THEY are the ones that are always whining "don't attack our brave men and women." I agree, we shouldn't attack our brave men and women, and like it or not, John Kerry was one of brave men. Bush wasn't. Cheney wasn't. Live with it.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-04 08:58 AM
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14. Did Clinton Lie to the American People
to get us into an unnecesary and costly war?

I am proud to say I never supported this clown.

I look forward to his impeachment.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 08:33 AM
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20. Why would you say such things when you have nothing to back them up.
You have not earned the right to throw something like that out of left field without a reference to support it. If you were in the news reporting business, those remarks would never even get into print. You cannot use any op. ed. reference, but a news story or two or three.

I'm not trying to be mean; however, I am so sick of this BS about 9/11 being Clinton's fault and that Reagan ended the cold war, when we all know, including Jimmy Carter, that Carter ended the cold war.

Disinformation has to stop as well as the propaganda that is woven into spin from Bush and his cronies.

Since you are new to DU, (welcome :-) I can see you do not understand how we handle some things. First, you know this site is not a democracy, right? The owners of this site make that clear. This is their site and they will handle it the way they want (and have every right to do so). Now, after you have been a member for a while, more people will get to know you and your posts. Once you have earned that seniority and when you post, other then the "Latest News", no reference is required; however, out of respect for each other, a way to get rid of disinformation and propaganda, we do try to share the reference we got our information from. We don't use the talking heads for posting information and absolute proof. We sure as heck don't just say somebody said something or use Randi Rhodes (I love Randi too) for a reference like the right tends to Limpballs and like the good, so-called Christian Freepers.

You want some laughs, read some of the posts on freerepublic.com. You will see just how these people are either so confused or just plain uneducated. Plus, they don't worship God, they Worship Bush at his alter of oil, blood, and pure greed.

Clinton never met with the Taliban (unlike Bush's base of oil company execs.) In The Summer of 2001, several of the big oil companies flew them to Texas to meet regarding the pipeline through Afghanistan (and other countries) from the Caspian Sea. Of course, the Taliban are an extreme of Islam (just like the Saudis; however, the Saudis are better at being two faced) just like our Christian Coalition and the Moral Majority are with Christianity. Of course, the Taliban leaders would hear nothing of it. They feel progress is evil as well as the government of the U.S.

9/11 happened because we have a moron sitting as the Potus with his sidekick evil doer, Cheney, and Rumsfield, who was the man that agreed to give weapons to Saddam Hussein back in the late 80's because we hate Iran then; including chemical weapons. Also, include Condee - I wish I could be Mrs. Bush - Rice, who when asked about the Tsunami and American Aid spoke about how that tragedy was a real opportunity for the U.S. to show the World how quickly we are always the first to offer help. AN OPPORTUNITY? What amazed me was she was so gleeful when she made the above stupid remarks.
Yeah, FEMA really showed New Orleans how great they are.

George Bush is a liar to the American People. He is a moron that can hardly put one foot in front of the other without falling on his flat faced head. He and his friend Cheney have committed treason along with the Cheney's other hand-picked war mongers in this administration. These people have never been elected into office by the people but selected by a biased court.

9/11 was allowed to happen or this administration played a part in it. Halliburton got all of those no bid contracts back in the 90's. So if there was no war, there would be no proffits. Guess who was lobbying the Pentagon for all of these no-bid contracts in the late 90's? Two guesses and the first one does not count. That's right, Uncle Dickie. Cheney owns 400,000+ shares of stock in Halliburton. These stock have increased, I think, 50%. I'm going to have to research that percentage because I heard someone on the news talking about it; however, unless I have some evidence to back up what I post, I let the other members know.

If you truly believe the comments you posted are true, as a fellow DU member, I urge you to do some research. Not on a dominately liberal progressive site nor on a conservative, so-called Christian, or GOP site.

The truth is out there . . . you just have to want to find it.


sorry for any errors in spelling, I'm using Windows 95 right now, and it will not let me use spell check. :-(
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 07:40 PM
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6. That is all he can do.
The Chimp takes no responsibility.
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starfiend15 Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:20 PM
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7. Sick
really sick
702 americans dead and what do we have to show for it
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 11:50 PM
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10. How the hell
can his poll numbers still be up? Is the right half of this country's brain dead? :wtf:
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OregonHippie Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:03 PM
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11. Ignorance
People don't think things through, they just believe what they are told by the media. To understand the immense damage our country has incurred from this administration, one has to delve past the massive spin machine the Republicans have (and of course which the media outlets feed into). For some people it is just too much and they just 'go with the flow', so to speak.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:36 PM
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12. Welcome to DU OregonHippie!
:hi:
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Chomsky_ite Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 07:54 PM
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15. Your right
I think half of the far right neo-cons are braindead actually. Half of them probably read Bill O'Reilly books, which totally dooms them to the scrap heap of intelligence.
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commissure Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:56 PM
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16. Bush wanted Iraq war in 2000, because of insecurities and political gain.
http://www.guerrillanews.com/articles/article.php?id=761

This article is very telling about Bush's motives for going to war. He was thinking about Iraq in 2000 as he was elected because:
Saddam threatened his father
His father's popularity soared with the Gulf War

Bush never had high respect for the Military because
He saw his father use war to gain political currency
And he was never disciplined when he barely served in the guard.

That is why Bush jokes about the military and military causalities. It is not real to him. It is even less real when Rumsfeld and Cheyney can crush the recommendations of senior Pentagon Generals.

Every voter should read this article
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demio Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 08:12 PM
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17. Donna Marsh O'Connor's Letter to Bush is no Joke!
This is one very powerful letter print, post, and circulate. It's worth everyones time to read.




Sometimes, Mr. Bush, it’s the smallest of details that makes everything click. The smallest of details. Right now, Mr. Bush, I am looking at your watch. It’s an item of clothing accessory and, unlike your other costumes, it is one that is particularly revealing.

On Halloween my daughter would be thirty-three years old. Her child would be almost three. Seven weeks before her twenty-ninth birthday, Vanessa, four months pregnant, ran from the falling towers of the World Trade Center . She did not make it. Her body, and in it the small body of her unborn child, was pulled from the rubble of the fallen towers on September 24 th, just ten feet from an alley between towers IV and V. It is important for me to tell you that she was on the phone to her uptown office five minutes after the first plane hit tower I, explaining how she and others in tower II were “safe.”

Here is what you did regarding specifically the events of that morning: You vacationed before, during and after August 6 th, the day you were handed the presidential daily briefing that said very clearly Vanessa Lang Langer and many other Americans were not safe. After the first plane hit tower I, the fact of the PDB did not click in your mind, did not cause you to act, to turn on a television, to contact the Pentagon. You sat so that you did not frighten a group of children. You did not worry about Vanessa’s brothers, or the young children who would certainly be directly affected by that event. You did not, like her fourteen year-old brother, rush from your seat and head for a phone, desperately trying to reach out, to fix, to save. You sat. You said, two weeks to the day before the general election of 2004, that you would protect Americans; that is, according to you, your primary responsibility as Commander-in Chief; no terrorists would get us, no terrorists would attack us (you said this with your arm extended), and I you said and I quote, on your watch. You said this with no sense of irony, no sense, no indication of how that text would sound to those you failed miserably to protect. You never notified officially the airlines, flight schools, persons who lived or worked in our tallest structures. You failed in your watch and on it.

Help me to understand this, because I was looking so closely at your watch. Five minutes, Mr. Bush. Five minutes. In that five minute space my sons lost a best friend, a future that included a loving sister and her future family. And my daughter lost the only thing in life I ever knew she really wanted. In fact, you stood on September 13 th, on the rubble that covered my child’s bones and you began your move to have the war you had been planning since the beginning of your term in office. You, Mr. Bush, used my daughter’s murder to perpetrate the most hideous example of racism with the direst of consequences and you did it standing literally on her bones.

I am going to be very honest with you, Mr. Bush. I suspect that your culpability does not begin with your failures that day. It may be imprudent to mention this now because evidence is difficult to produce, but I am one of those pragmatists that rely on some basic fundamentals in crime solving. So let me say, when a crime is committed we are to find suspects by exploring motive, by looking at who had most to gain. You did, Mr. Bush, you and your friends at Halliburton and your friends in Saudi Arabia . And you have never answered for this. Don’t you think with all that has happened it would be in order for you to explain all you have come to gain, now and in the future, in terms of both money and power?

On September 11 th, I was in Canada . When I heard the news I was walking in the street, enjoying what was to be the last of the purely beautiful sunny mornings of my life. My cell phone rang. And every second after that call was a mix of panic, dread, calm because this couldn’t be happening, and utter, absolute need to touch my daughter. What would you have done, Mr. Bush? What would your instincts have been? As a parent? I ask this because Senator Kerry during the second debate mentioned you are a “good father.” Are you? Have you made Americans, including your own daughters safer? Let me tell you what I wanted that morning. I wanted to fly to New York , to put my feet on my home soil as fast as humanly possible. I wanted to get to an airport and get home. Not an option for me, Mr. Bush. My husband and I just made it over the border before it closed. And on that morning, when no American citizen was allowed to fly in our airspace, on that morning and the mornings to follow, Americans were grounded. But bin Laden’s family flew. They flew home to Saudi Arabia . Before they were vetted by the F.B.I., by the C.I.A. And worst of all, you never were made to tell the truth about why that was so. I’m sorry, Mr. Bush. I will never understand this. Never. But still: your responsibility was then and is now to explain it. And to explain while that watch of yours leading up to the election is still ticking.

Right now there is a report from the C.I.A. that names explicitly your administration’s culpability regarding those events. Bipartisan leaders have requested, even demanded that those reports be turned over now to congress. You, according to reports, have refused to allow the C.I.A. to release them, just as you refused to testify under oath before the 9/11 commission. Now, Mr. Bush, release them. Before the election.

Right now, Mr. Bush, there are wide-spread rumors of vote tampering all over this country. And let me be clear about this: the rumors are that Republicans are benefiting from this tampering. Instead of enumerating our safeties, perhaps you could show some leadership, Mr. Bush, and demand that it stop now. Demand, Mr. Bush, that in this country our right to vote is protected. Because without that, we are not safe. Wouldn’t you agree?

After the 2000 election, where there were in Florida widespread problems with voting, Mr. Bush, voting in African American communities, you also did nothing. Absolutely nothing. You did nothing to counter the rumors that your brother handed you Florida . Nothing to smooth over what must have felt to African Americans (even if this was just rumor) the painful and the absolute, clear enactment of racial prejudice, not encoded in the ordinary acts of ordinary citizens, but in the very structure of the government that must be protective of all citizens of this country and the world. Why, Mr. Bush, did you fail to go to Florida and demand that these persons’ rights were protected? Or, at the very least, to apologize and guarantee that this would never happen again? What does America mean to you? In August of 2001, the United Nations hosted a conference on racism and Colin Powell, your Secretary of State wanted to attend. You did not allow this because, you said, we don’t have problems with racism in America . Do you see the pattern I am pointing at, here, Mr. Bush? In each case, the problems in this country have been enacted and exacerbated by you and you have attempted to cover them up. How could you do that to Colin Powell? How could you do that to another man?

When your children are young, Mr. Bush, they are often rebellious. They often admire you, but buck you at the same time. One way a mature parent feels this love is sometimes in the very ways in which your children buck you by using the very part of your example they most admire. Vanessa confronted me every day of her life, especially on the days when she acted most loving. Parent/child things. The kind of things that all someday are made into family jokes when the child becomes a parent and sees that the very methods of touching and teaching and learning come from actions the parent used without thought. I never had that fully with Vanessa, the day when she consciously, because she was parenting herself, used my methods on another generation. But one day, almost there, Vanessa said to me, “Mom, you always made Christmases at home so beautiful” and then she said, “And you taught us how not to be racist. You have no idea, Mom, how much racism there is and white people don’t always see it.”

I cannot tell you in shorthand, Mr. Bush, how important it was that she said those words before I lost her because unless she did, I would always have wondered, was I in any way that mattered, a good enough parent to a woman who would die so young. I can tell you some of the methods I used with Vanessa and her brothers, but let me show you what you did that I had to explain and counter with all three of them:

You refused, when you met face-to-face with James Byrd’s daughter (You remember him, I am sure. He’s the African-American man whose head was ripped almost off of his body in Texas by three white men who tied him to their pickup and dragged him along a Texas road.), you refused to sign a hate crimes bill as she begged you, crying. You didn’t even, as Molly Ivins reported, offer her a tissue. In that sense, Mr. Bush, you functioned as a very hostile branch of government, one that we might have predicted would not care if persons of color or persons of the other party were denied the right to vote.

But then, Mr. Bush, you used this tendency of yours, this refusal to get behind most Americans’ desires to eradicate racism by pretending Osama bin Laden is the embodiment of Saddam Hussein and vice versa. One man equals the other. They are both Arabs. Do you own a globe, Mr. Bush? Do you know where Afghanistan is? Do you know where Iraq is? Have you been there since the war began to examine what you have done to the civilians you were going to protect? Interesting detail (and perhaps a warning from G-d): Vanessa, when she got one of her first jobs, bought me a daily planner with a map on it. The map on this particular piece of canvas has in its center Afghanistan . To the right of this small country is a larger country -- Iran and to the right of that -- Iraq , also small, even smaller (geographically and metaphorically speaking) of Afghanistan . Just under Iraq , writ very large on my daily planner is Saudi Arabia . You know, Saudi Arabia , Mr. Bush. I know you do because the families of 9/11 who got together to bankrupt terrorism, those people who are bringing suit against the Saudis got no help from your administration. None. Though you should know that a coalition of the willing, including France , Spain , Great Britain and Germany have offered help to the families of 9/11 as they try to connect the events of 9/11 to the real perpetrators. There are connections between the Saudis and the terrorists, the terrorists who, no doubt, now that you have opened up a haven for terrorism in Iraq , are growing in number and resources. How much time do you have left, Mr. Bush? What is on your watch? Am I taking too long?

What costume will you wear on Vanessa’s birthday this year, Mr. Bush? Will you dress up as the head of the military or a foot soldier of Prince Bandar or Dick Cheney? Will you wear a white sheet with a cone head, Mr. Bush? Will you pretend you’re a plain speaking, Texas cowboy, with your shirt sleeves rolled up, proclaiming happily how safe you’ll keep us as you point to your watch? Will you dress up again as a good Christian? Will you dress up as a Republican? You are, you know, not a Republican. You have shamed Republicans. I know one thing, Mr. Bush: I am going to try very hard not to have you dress up anymore as Commander-in Chief. In more ways than I have articulated here, that costume does not fit you. I am a proud American citizen, Mr. Bush, who is disgusted that you try to portray yourself as patriotic. You have trampled every value of decency America ever held dear.

Do you believe in G-d, Mr. Bush, really? Really? Because, to me, as a flawed parent, flawed person, flawed citizen, I ask G-d to help me fix my flaws, to forgive me my trespasses. And here’s what I hear Him telling me:

Don’t let him speak for Me. If you do, it is you who fail to watch over your children. You.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 08:58 PM
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18. Great article
If only he could drown in all the blood he's spilt through his ignorance and his apathy.

:cry:
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 03:21 AM
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19. He won't be laughing Tuesday night.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-27-06 12:15 PM
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22. I dont see the link

Says Page Not Found

Am I not left clicking properly or has the Junta had the news story scrubbed?
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