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geoforce Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 11:48 PM
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US Postal Service Makes Nazi Symbol a Stamp.



"While browsing through the notorious “Al Martin Raw” website I was astonished to read that the USPS has appropriated the Nazi Eagle on its new 57 cent stamp. I was more than astonished - I didn’t believe it - but a quick search of www.usps.gov , showed me it was true..."
<http://www.themanisreport.tripod.com/eagle.html>
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 11:53 PM
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1. You mean the stamp is going up to 57 cents? From 34 to 57cents?
Help! I'll be doing everything online that I can.
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daytondem Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:00 AM
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5. First Class mail isn't going up to 57 cents,
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 12:07 AM by daytondem
but it has been at 37 for a while now.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:52 AM
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8. Are you joking?
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 12:54 AM by repeater138
Someone shows you a US stamp with Nazi paraphanelia on it and your reaction is to the price?

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Itascapark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 11:53 PM
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2. Well
all this and a Nazi stamp too...welcome to the new American Empire, now in goosestep teal!

:scared:
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-03 11:56 PM
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3. Pre-planning, by the time it costs .55 to send a ltr, the 4th reich
Edited on Wed Aug-06-03 11:57 PM by DagmarK
will be fully installed.

Wonder if the Anti-Defamation League is aware of this???
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:00 AM
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4. contrast it with these
http://www.archives.gov/research_room/alic/reference_desk/new_deal_labor.html



NRA Blue Eagle

The eagle used by FDR for the national recovery act.

I have seen these "federal eagles" on a post office
that I think was from the late 40's.

So I think the deco eagle has been used but these
are on the creepy side.

But it is not quite the cathedral of light but odd still.



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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:06 AM
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6. I think this story from last year is a joke
.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 12:08 AM
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7. A for honesty to the Post Office
n/t
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 09:58 AM
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9. How disgusting
Why not just put out a pro bush film titled 'triumph of the will.'
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 02:19 PM
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10. This must be a hoax.
I went to the USPS Web site and can't find it.
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anti_shrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 01:19 AM
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11. The images in the original post
are from the USPS.com site.
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geoforce Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-03 11:28 AM
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12. I couldn't find it either.
But the image urls are from the usps website. They are real. It is just a question if you think the "art deco eagles" are really...
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Goldust Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 08:58 AM
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13. Oh for God's sakes people
It's a freakin' Art Deco eagle design from the 1930s, not a Nazi symbol. Take a look at pretty much any building built by the Works Project Administration and you'll find one. The stamp commemorates WPA architecture, which many people are working hard to preserve.

I suppose next we'll see a thread on how Nick At Nite's "Hogan's Heroes" re-runs are actually part of a CIA psy-ops project to gin up support for the overthrow of the government.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:07 AM
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15. Real Nazi Eagles....
Edited on Thu Aug-14-03 08:45 AM by WoodrowFan
It's just a 1930's art deco eagle. The Post Office use dhtis design before, I think when Clinton was in office....

There's no swastika, Nazi Eagles had swastikas...

Here are REAL Nazi Eagles...












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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 07:05 AM
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19. Not all Nazi eagles had swastikas
Here's an example from a 1935 commemorative which also features the Potsdam Garrison Church:


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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 09:28 AM
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23. true, but
The one on the coin looks like a traditional German eagle, i.e., pre-Nazi. But you are right, German eagles during the Nazi period didn't all have swastikas, but the ones which were meant to symbolize Nazi power and rule DID.
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rusk2003 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 12:32 AM
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14. I looked but did not see it please gie me direction on how you did
Checking the usps.gov i did not see any stamps like that maybe iam not looking in the right area or catagory. :argh:
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:36 AM
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16. That's Because
It's no longer sold. It was issued in 2001 and is called the "Art Deco Definitive Stamp." here is what the PO said at the time it was issued.. (do a search in Google for "Art Deco" and "stamp")

<i> The 55-cent Art Deco Eagle stamp is for First-Class letters weighing more than one ounce and up to and including two ounces. It was illustrated by Nancy Stahl, of New York, N.Y., and Herrman was the art director. The stamp will be available in panes of 20 self-adhesive stamps. Eagles -- like the one featured on the Art Deco Eagle stamp -- were popular decorative elements on art deco lobby mailboxes in the 1920s and 1930s. These letter boxes were made
of a variety of metals including bronze, brass and cast aluminum alloys.</i>


come on folks, do a little research before you panic!!! leave that to the freepers, THEY'RE the ones who are supposed to get bent out of shape by rumors about symbols on pop cans and stamps and such...
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 11:31 AM
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17. No - Its the symbol for the Intergalatic Defence Forces
does'nt anybody know anything??
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 06:38 PM
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18. not a nazi eagle
I think that is a peculiar design of the American eagle that was used a long time ago.
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ScrewyRabbit Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 06:47 PM
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20. You can't really call it a nazi eagle
...just because it's in a chiseled art deco style. The fascists borrowed from art deco design, not the other way around. There are plenty of buildings from the 30s in the US that have similar eagles on them.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-03 11:58 PM
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21. Plenty of buildings?
So you should be able to name a few.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 09:41 AM
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25. Here's One
Edited on Sat Aug-16-03 09:44 AM by WoodrowFan
Here's one..

Federal Office Building, New York, 1935.

http://www.loc.gov/bicentennial/propage/NY/ny-18_h_lowey5.html

Here's another, on a Post Office in Minneapolis.

http://www.lileks.com/mpls/post/post7.html



I also remember seeing one on a building at Ohio University. It's been 20 years since I attended so I can't remember the name of the building but it was the one nearest the graffiti wall. We used to joke and remark it looked like a building at Nuremberg but it was a plain US 1930s eagle.


Sorry, I don't have time to do more but there's a lot of sites online about the WPA and Art Deco design.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 01:47 AM
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22. It's a traditional German symbol
At least I hope so. I have a genealogy web site with a fleur d'lis and that same eagle on it. It kind of freaked me out too, but it seems that had been a traditional German symbol for a very long time. The Nazis put the swastika on it, I think, and that one doesn't have it.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-03 09:41 AM
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26. yes
seal of the Federation:


crest of the Federal Gouvernment:


crest of the Bundestag:


...

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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-03 09:38 AM
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24. Design was approved pre-*
Since the stamp came out in 2001 that means it was planned and designed during the Clinton Administration, NOT shrub's.
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-03 11:31 AM
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27. I asked the German guy next to me if he thought it looked familiar
He said "yeah that could be the "ReichsAdler" (Imperial Eagle)." Then he asked what it was on.

Wow, what a tell. Hope the US doesn't play poker :-)
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