Bring it On!!! This for for all you Freeper's Lurking in DU Land!!

[Homer12]

Got you.....

This post is content free like your installed President Bush, whom sullies the name of very good baked beans, but leaves the aftertaste like bad cheap beer.

Your so easy to flush out of DU, no wonder why the only argument's you have are the shout-down tactic.




Homer12

[marmoh]

1. Freepers are smarter than you think

Not to degrade your post or anything, but I'd like to point out that no one has replied to your post and that suggests that any freepers lurking in DU land are smarter than you think.
If they were as stupid as people make them out to be, then they would have all rushed to post to your article, to prove you wrong.
The fact that they haven't is proof that they are smarter than people here give them credit for.
Freepers are people to and are just as smart as anyone on DU.
They have their faults and we have ours, but stupidity is not a fault to be found on either list.

[Homer12]

2. I did not say that Freepers are stupid...

...I just said they are easy to flush out, given that some and maybe more are so driven by reactionary and emotional shout-down tactics.

The reason why they have not responded to my post is becuase my post was not created to flush them out in the first place. It is so "obvious" that it would be well, a mistake to answer my post with anti-DU sentiment; Now, that would be stupid.

No, my post was and is just a vent of stress at the right and a jab at any "freepers" on DU; Using the inane and ignorant statement that GW Bush made about Iraqi resistance against US occupation when everyday more and more US soldiers die in gurellia attacks.

Freepers are not stupid, but it seems when they get on DU, some lack the discipline to control their out-rage and reactionary anger towards us and our Bush bashing, liberal and left POV, and nearly everything else we stand for.

These Freepers are easy to flush out.

[marmoh]

3. Yes, that maybe so

But if you go on FR then you will see that some of us who happen to be lurking on FR can't control ourselves either.
I have seen many times (I lurk there myself sometimes to see what those freepers are up to) when lurking leftists have just gotten so angry at the freepers that they give themselves away.
Take the Bush action figure doll incident.
There was an article about it on FR and "wardcleaver" went nuts and exposed himself to be a DUer.
It maybe easy for us to flush out them, but it is also easy for them to flush out us.
Obviously, self control is not on either list of traits as well.

[votein04]

17. one small correction...

No, my post was and is just a vent of stress at the right and a jab at any "freepers" on DU; Using the inane and ignorant statement that GW Bush made about Iraqi resistance against US occupation when everyday more and more US soldiers die in gurellia attacks.


That stunned looking cowboy actually said "Bring 'em on".

[votein04]

4. I disagree

Freepers are, on the whole, pretty damn stupid.

Would you call indiscriminate racism and a love of violence "smart"?

They're only smart insomuch as they know how to twist and BS and work their computers. Beyond that, their mental acuity suffers badly from isolation, fear, and hatred.

And obviously this thread wasn't meant to smoke freepers out of their hateful little holes....although a dumb freeper might think it was.

Yep, freepers are largely stupid and I can't wait until Bush is sent packing in '04 so I can go over there and laugh my ass off at them! That is going to be sooooooo sweeeeeet!!

[marmoh]

5. I disagree

I'm not very political and not really into politics, and you can see that I'm new here on DU.
But, I have not seen any proof that freepers are racist. Unless you count liberalism as a race. But then you would have to count conservatism as a race and then we would all be one big happy racist bunch.
I also, have never seen any proof that freepers have a love of violence.
When you can show me proof of both of those things, then maybe I will take your statement a little more seriously.
And as for them suffering from isolation, I find that to be impossible. Go on FR and you will realize that there are quite a lot of freepers. Jim Robinson once said that there were somewhere around 300,000 active freepers.
And as for fear and hatred, The freepers do not fear us. They may hate us (a lot,) but they do not fear us.
And as for your next paragraph, of course this thread is not meant to smoke them out. Any idiot can see that. It is meant to show hatred towards the enemy and pride towards our allies. If you want to twist things a little, you could even add fear to the list of things that this thread shows. Pride,Hatred,Fear. Two of the 3 things that were on your list of freeper qualities.
And, in your post you said that a stupid freeper might see this thread as a means to flush out freepers. And then you go and state in your last paragraph, that you are going to do the very thing on FR that a stupid freeper would do here on DU.
So, you have just, in a sense, called yourself a stupid DUer.

[votein04]

6. I'll explain in a little more detail for you.

I'm not talking about freepers blind, frothing hatred of liberals, I'm talking about their hatred of immigrants and other assorted non-American and/or non-white peoples. It's based on race/color.
I've commonly seen the terms "diaper-head" used over there. If you engage them in any thread regarding Muslims or the Arab world, they'll use it on you. That, and "Akbar", "camel-jockey", ect ect.

They love to mock Muslims.....although they'll quickly point out THAT'S not racism since Muslim isn't a race. Yes, hair-splitting is a sport over there.

No, not ALL freepers are this way. When it occurs though - which is frequent - the "silence is deafening" (a favorite freeper quote when complaining about Muslims).

And the love of violence is another obviously apparent attribute of the majority of freepers. Killing someone or some group is the first reaction that accompanies their oft-ignighted self-righteous outrage.
Vieled and undisguised threats of violence against people of opposing political views are all too common.

Are you sure it's freerepublic.com you've been lurking around?

To continue........you seem to be saying that sharing a cyber-discussion thread with a large number of likewise narrow-thinkers with an equally dismal understanding of the world lends itself to saving them from isolation.
On the whole the ignorance so evident over there is a result of isolation from other cultures and ideas.

And yes, many freepers DO fear us. They don't fear us PHYSICALLY. No, they know they can easily reach for one of the two or three guns they've got stashed in every room of their homes and blow our hippie heads off...no problem. No, you're missing the point here....but as you said you're not too political. They fear the anarchy, free-love, rampant aids, and communism that they suspect would accompany liberal control of the country. They fear the wrath of God that would surely befall the USA if the liberals get the chance to turn it into Sodom.
They fear the homosexuals that would infiltrate every school and cub scout club if we get half a chance. You've got to look beyond the simple man in the street fear you seem to be applying to the situation. I don't fear repukes either....I do fear what they can and will do to our country and to our world if allowed to continue.

This little nugget from you makes precious little sense:
And, in your post you said that a stupid freeper might see this thread as a means to flush out freepers. And then you go and state in your last paragraph, that you are going to do the very thing on FR that a stupid freeper would do here on DU.
So, you have just, in a sense, called yourself a stupid DUer.

Huh? I said I'd go over there and laugh at them. How does that relate to how a stupid freeper might interpret this thread? You're making zero sense here.

As for fear and hatred....let me explain. It's not a black and white meaning (something else freepers are afflicted with...interpret everything in black and white).
There is good fear and there is bad fear. There is good hatred and there is bad hatred.
I won't give you examples....just think upon it for a while. Do some more lurking at FR, cause you obviously haven't done enough or you'd know what I'm talking about.

regards.

[marmoh]

8. Yes, i'm sure...

But maybe I should clear something up. When I lurk on FR I do not go on all the threads. I have a few threads that I remain on for some time and then I log off. This is because I am not interested in their point of veiws. I am interested in different things of which are usually on found on a few certain threads.
And yes, I am sure that I lurk on FR. I have no doubt of it.
So I don't really know about their diaper head name callings. I will be sure to check it out.
I do not know of their anti-immigrant hatreds. I will be sure to check it out.
I do not know of any love of violence in freepers. I will be sure to check it out.
And about the isolation, no one is isolated if they at least have access to the internet. There will always be people who share their views.
About their igorance isolating them, that is your opinion. It is not a fact, that is opinion. Go on FR and you will see that they have the same opnion about leftists. I don't know whose opinion is right, so I do the best I can.
About their fear, that is mutual. The leftists fear what would happen if the rightwingers stay in control. They fear what would happen if the rightwingers managed to stay in power. So they do everything they can to keep it from happening.
The rightwingers fear what would happen if the leftists ever managed to regain control and all that other stuff you talked about. So they do everything they can to keep this from happening.
As for me not making sense, yes it does. Let me explain some more. You said that a stupid freeper would see this post as an opportunity to flush out freepers and might even post some anti-DU stuff here if he/she was really really stupid.
Then you stated that when Bush is sent packing, you will go over to FR and laugh at all the freepers. Thusly showing anti-FR stuff on FR.
Thusly doing the same thing a stupid freeper would do.
Thusly, calling yourself a stupid Duer.
Black and white is not bad, but yes, you are right on this. There is a lot of gray involved. Maybe freepers see the gray, maybe they don't. Like I said earlier, I only go on certain threads.
I will try to correct this.
regards

[votein04]

7. Maybe you can tell me

what, if anything, don't you like about FReepers?

[marmoh]

9. Maybe you can tell me

Why I should hate freepers?
Or why I should dislike them?
You shouldn't hate some one because you disagree with them.
I disagree with some of their veiws, and I disagree with some of ours. And I'd like to point out that my parents are both freepers so it's hard to both be on here (they don't know I'm on here), and to agree with some of the stuff I find on here because my parents disagree with it and so it's just hard.

[votein04]

10. Why you should hate freepers?

I never said you should hate freepers.

You have a habit of twisting what I say. Hmmmmm....who else has that same habit....
Anyone?

I feel sorry for you and the difficulties you face having freeper parents. That sucks.
How many years before you're old enough to move out?

[marmoh]

11. Yes, you did but just not in those exact words.

You asked what if anything I hated about freepers. Thusly, implying that I should hate freepers and the fact that I don't seem to means that there is something wrong with me. Well, there is NOT anything wrong with me.
And I know what you are implying in post #10. And it's not true. And I am somewhat insulted that you would imply that, though I realize that with some of the things I have said, you do have a reason (though a very small one) for implying that.
And you have a habit of being unable to use logic and most of your posts are clouded with opinions and emotions. Hmmmmm...who else has that habit....anyone?
And as for how long til I can move out, I prefer not to give my age away and will only say thus: enough time will pass.

[votein04]

12. Uh....no.

You asked what if anything I hated about freepers.

No, I didn't. I asked you if there's ANYTHING you DON'T LIKE about freepers.
You seem to have spent the majority of your time since arriving here defending freepers. Whatever that implies, it implies.

You say you haven't seem the tendencies towards racism, intollerance, and violence over there because you tend to focus only on certain topics when you lurk there. Sure, ok. You certainly have picked up their tendency to put words in others mouths. This is the third time I've had to correct a blatant misrepresentation of what I've previously said. That's a typical freeper tactic....whether done out of stupidity or as an intentional fillibuster.

I would link you to some threads demonstrating the negative attributes of freepers to which I refer, but I have a feeling you won't be around here long. Besides, you're a young guy so you have lot's of time to wallow in their cesspool and see for yourself.

But maybe I should give you something specific to comment on regarding freepers.
What about their refusal to lend any credibility to the idea of global warming and the causes for it? They choose to question 2000+ climatic scientists from all over the world who agree on not only the existence of global warming but as well that our activities are a large part of the cause. Freepers would rather discount this imense number of respected scientists in favor of a handful of "skeptics", some of whom are clearly in the service of the energy sector.
What do you think of that reprehensible behavior? Any opinion?
Don't you think it's verging on evil to gamble our future when the prevailing PROFESSIONAL opinion points the way?
They claim these 2000+ scientists have an interest in perpetuating false claims about global warming.
Why does this pond scum take this position? Apparently because they fear the steps to curb global warming would impact our economy. Oh ya...and the FBI would snatch away their SUVs or something.

Go ask your parents, see what they think about it. Then go on the net and look up the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Yes...it's a UN sponsored initiative. The dumb repukes automatically spit on anything to do with the UN. What do you think of that?
What do you think of the UN?
Repukes completely discount any organization of international value as being 100% useless and corrupt.
Amnesty International is another one. Freepers have NO IDEA about the important work AI does....yet 99% of them scoff at the very mention of the organization.
Yes...freepers are stupid. There's no other word for it. They appear evil at times, but I truely think they're just stupid.

[marmoh]

13. My mistake

You corrected me on what you said. What I wrote was a mistake. I'm sorry to get you all angry over that. That was not misinterpeting what you said, I was a little bit ticked at you and I made a mistake. As I said before, I'm sorry.
You don't believe me about lurking? Fine. Ok. Here's what you do. Go to FR and to a search on "Canteen August 20" You should come up with the USO Canteen for August 20th titled Pancakes on Wednes day. My first comment on that was something in the 60's. My name on that site is minor49er. If you don't believe that that's me than fine. I can't make you believe what you don't want to.
That is where I spend my time on FR though I haven't spent much time there today because I have been busy talking to you. Are you happy now?
I now have the chance to correct one of your mistakes. I am not a "young guy". I am a "young girl". Anybody could make that mistake and you're not the first person to make it about me.
About global warming: you're right about that. They shouldn't ignore the opinions of 2,000 proffessionals because they like SUVs. However, there is defense for there position. This winter I got more snow then in like the past 5 years combined. It was something like the 3rd largest snow storm in recorded history.
Then there is the ice age theory. The theory that we are coming out of a mild ice age. that is what my parents think about global warming.
What do I think? Honestly, I don't care. Right now, all I care about is being able to get the grades that I need to get accpeted into USNA.
In case you don't know, that's a Naval Academy down in Maryland (I think).
About the UN: Yes, the freepers do not feel very warmly about the UN.
I think that the UN should have helped us with Iraq, but I also feel that President Bush should have tried a little harder to get them to help us and he shouldn't have marched right into Iraq without trying hrader for UN support.
And as for AI: never heard of it so I don't have an opinion on it.
So maybe freepers are stupid and appear evil at times.
Well guess what?
So do DUers.
DUers are stupid and appear evil at times as well.
But neither of them is stupid on a whole.
They may appear stupid at times, they may be stupid at tiems, but that does not mean that they are stupid.
Same goes for us.
You wanna know what it means?
It means we are human.

[votein04]

14. Hey, I'm not angry

so don't trouble yourself over that. No need for fake apologies, in other words.

And no, I'm not happy about you spending all your time in the USO canteen at FR. Do a search on "muslim" or "gay" or "global warming" and check out just how stupid, hateful, and intollerant freakers are.

They shouldn't ignore the opinions of 2,000 proffessionals because they like SUVs. However, there is defense for there position. This winter I got more snow then in like the past 5 years combined. It was something like the 3rd largest snow storm in recorded history.
Then there is the ice age theory. The theory that we are coming out of a mild ice age. that is what my parents think about global warming.
What do I think? Honestly, I don't care. Right now, all I care about is being able to get the grades that I need to get accpeted into USNA.


So....you got lot's of snow this winter....and that means...what? In your professional opinion that doesn't tie in with global warming?
And your parents......they base their opinio on an "ice age theory"??
What theory is that?
And you call these two points a "defense" for the freeper position? Then they have no defense!

If you "honestly" don't care, then why are you hanging around a political forum? You just don't care about the fact that our world is under threat from climate change.....you must be very well received over at FR.
FReepers commonly dismiss global warming concerns with cute little comments like "Well...it's been damn cold around here lately" or some other STUPID weather reference that's intended to mock the idea of global warming.
Global warming, according to repukes, is just some sort of conspiracy cooked up to steal their SUV's and keep money in the pockets of scientists. STUPID is as STUPID thinks, I guess.

Good luck getting into your school. Hope they teach you a few things.

[Hasaler]

16. Keep learning

Marmoh,

I think you're trying to keep an open mind. That's good, but really look at the evidence. If one person gives you evidence from 2,000 scientists, and another gives you evidence from 100 scientists, which theory is correct? You're right, global warming isn't a fact, but most of the evidence leads us to believe that it is probably occurring. You need to look at the information that is available and its source. If the evidence against global warming came from a study sponsored by an energy company (who stand to lose money because of clean air rules), than the study cannot be given as much weight as a study from a university. Do this for other issues as well.

Also, be careful about what you do behind your parents back (even if they are Freepers). They're only trying to protect you.

[votein04]

15. Can you friggin' believe it?

One was stupid enough to bite on this!

[Homer12]

18. Taking the bait and global warming

First of all, if we can have an ice age, than we can have global warming. Climate change is a cold and warm hard fact. The argument is if human's can affect the global climate by the manipulation of the carbon cycle as well as ecological destruction and pollution. This is the argument between the left and the right: Corporation vs. environmental.

I'll sum-up the global warming argument: 6 billion people on the planet. Human population growth is rising with no end in sight. An exponetial growth rate can only end in a major catastrophic fall. Global climate change, warming or cooling, will be becuase of US.

Anybody who says that global warming is a myth is a fool and should go back to pre-school becuase they have learned nothing in their lifetimes.

Keep on biting Freepers! I'll be on DU for some time.

thanks,

Homer 12

[weasel]

19. "Bring it On!!! This for for all you Freeper's Lurking in DU Land!!"

Curses. You reds are so clever.

[Moderator]

20. Locking....

this thread serves no useful purpose.