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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 01:46 AM
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Dick Cheney has referred to the "Old Europe" in a number of...
...his talks and we hear about the "New World Order" from the Bushies from my recollections going back to Bush I. So where did these people get these ideas? They certainly did not think of them all by their selves, nor did they get together with other like minded neo-conservatives and brain storm these ideas into existence. So i conducted a search using Google, thank you Google, and here is what popped up:

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Nomos of the Earth
In the International Law of the Jus Publicum Europaeum
by Carl Schmitt

Telos Press Ltd.

Due/Published April 2003, 372 pages, cloth

ISBN 0914386298

The Nomos of the Earth is Schmitt's most historical and geopolitical book. It describes the origin of the Eurocentric global order, which Schmitt dates from the discovery of the New World, discusses its specific character and its contribution to civilization, analyzes the reasons for its decline at the end of the 19th century, and concludes with prospects for a new world order. It is a reasoned, yet passionate argument in defense of the European achievement -- not only in creating the first truly global order of international law, but also in limiting war to conflicts among sovereign states, which, in effect, civilized war. In Schmitt's view, the European sovereign state was the greatest acheivement of Occidental rationalism; in becoming the prinicpal agency of secularization, the European state created the modern age. Since the problematic of a new nomos of the earth has become still more critical with the onset of the post-modern age and post-modern war, Schmitt's text is even more timely and challenging.

Remarkable in Schmitt's discussion of the European epoch of world history is the role played by the New World, which ultimately replaced the Old World as the center of the earth and became the arbiter in European and world politics. According to Schmitt, the United States' internal conflicts between economic presence and political absence, between isolationism and interventionism, are global problems, which today continue to hamper the creation of a new world order. But however critical Schmitt is of American actions at the turn of the 20th century and after World War I, he considered the United States to be the only political entity capable of resolving the crisis of global order.

<link> http://www.frontlist.com/detail/0914386298

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"As an expert in constitutional law, Schmitt wrote some of his most incisive and seminal studies during the Weimar years and acquired a well-deserved reputation as 'the enemy of liberalism'. And yet his terse formulations of the theory of the state and the constitution, or his radical insights into the nature of sovereignty, sustained largely by labyrinthine legal arguments and beclouded by a haze of mystical romanticism, have aroused, and keep on doing so to this day, an enormous interest not only in his native land but on the other side of the Atlantic as well. However, the most fateful event in Schmitt's extra-ordinarily lengthy intellectual carrier, which would forever blot his character and scholarship, was his decision to actively collaborate with the Nazi regime. Condemned to live in oblivion after the War, Schmitt spent his energies to reestablish his reputation, but remained aggressively unrepentant about his past and he never recanted his virulent anti-Semitism. Whatever his moral failings, or the force of his personality, it was the rediscovery of his books that gradually established his current reputation as an original and incisive thinker. " (sorry no link for this quote).

What can DUers tell me about this man Carl Schmitt? I understand he was a Nazi who lived to the ripe old age of 97 (1888-1985) and was a German legal theorist. Can anyone shed some light on the degree of influence Schmitt writtings and political philosophy has had on Cheney, Bush and other right wing power brokers in this current administration? How can the Kerry people expose the errors and dangers of what seem to be
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 03:38 AM
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1. All these great thinkers leave us with some truths.
We seem to be a mix of them all. Been years since I had to read all that stuff so do not recall all the names. There have been Germans, English, Fr, US people. Weber was always interesting and I do not recall Leo something that the neo-cons love so. Looks to me like we are ending up with 3 great powers. Europe, Asia with China leading and the US. Bin Lardin (sp) thinks the Middle East can become great as one area also. Looks to me like we, the three great groups of power, are just going to use the Middle East. Since Asia and Europe owns so much of us I fear for our place and how can one build and keep a great country if even the army must get it goods from countries that are trying to replace us? I sure wish I could re-call all the history I have read.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:44 AM
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2. There may be a dis-proportionality in the numbers of people....
...which three great powers will have to do the controlling relative to the rest of the world though. Let us see who dominates the world now and into the future:

Year World Population U.S. and North America Europe Asia Rest of World
1950 2,555,360,972 5.1% 12.0% 60.8% 22.1%

1960 3,039,669,330 5.0% 11.7% 60.7% 22.6%

1970 3,708,067,105 4.9% 11.3% 60.6% 23.2%

1980 4,454,389,519 4.8% 11.1% 60.4% 23.7%

1990 5,284,679,123 4.7% 10.8% 60.1% 24.4%

2000 6,085,478,778 4.6% 10.4% 59.8% 25.3%
2004 6,377,641,642 4.6% 10.2% 59.7% 25.5%

2010 6,812,248,283 4.5% 9.9% 59.6% 26.0%

2020 7,510,699,958 4.5% 9.2% 59.4% 26.9%

2030 8,111,883,766 4.5% 8.3% 59.3% 27.9%

2040 8,623,136,543 4.4% 7.5% 59.2% 28.9%

2050 9,050,494,208 4.4% 7.0% 59.1% 29.5%


World Population Distribution by Region, 1950–2050

Source: United Nations Population Division, Briefing Packet, 1998 Revision of World Population Prospects.

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html

http://www.prb.org/Content/NavigationMenu/PRB/Educators/Human_Population/Population_Growth/Population_Growth.htm


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