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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:44 PM
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Oil isn't the only reason why there is a bloodbath in Iraq
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 10:47 PM by Democrat Dragon
A few months ago I found this scary article. I couldn't find untill now:

It's all about Israel!

http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/johnson/johnson1.html

Superstitious Christians, such as Pat Robertson, accept the Hebrew Bible as the word of God, just as certainly as Halliburton overcharges US taxpayers. Wanting to please the Judeo-Christian God, Robertson believes the borders of Israel should be extended to borders dating back to 950 BC! He wrote an article about this, the title of which sums up Robertson’s neoconservative outlook on Israel --The Land of Israel: A Gift From God.

Based on Robertson’s ideas, American youth, and the youth of any country that is foolish enough to be sucked into taking part in these neocon wars, better be prepared for much more sacrifice and dying. The borders of Israel in 950 BC, as Robertson states, “go all the way up north to the Euphrates River which encompasses the better part of modern-day Syria . Solomon's empire went up to the Euphrates River . And Tyre and Sidon and Megiddo . And they had the Via Maris which went from Damascus all the way down to Cairo . It went as far as the area down in Gaza ." America ’s military really has a full agenda!


And yes they are planning on attacking Eygpt.....and Saudis

http://slate.msn.com/?id=2069119

:puke:
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parsifal_e Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 10:52 PM
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1. OH MY GOD !!!
Someone nuttier than Dubya ..... or is he ?
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esvhicl Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:02 PM
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2. Left Behind
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 11:03 PM by esvhicl
Not only do Robertson and his ilk believe they are fulfilling biblical prophecies, they've all read those "Left Behind" books and have confused that idiotic fiction with biblical prophecy.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-08-04 11:33 PM
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3. you're right, but --
Edited on Wed Dec-08-04 11:33 PM by cliss
there are other reasons why we marched into war.

1) Secure the oil. Start pumping, but don't flood the market. Sit on it. When everybody else starts running out, the spigot will still be pouring. Especially since China is looming on the horizon, like black storm clouds.

2) Use Iraq as a military base. Set up barracks, eavesdropping equipment (they've already done that), have Iraq as a colony. Keep an eye on the rest of the Middle East. Build the world's largest embassy, with 3,000 employees (on the way). Have "Mr. Death" Dimintri Negroponte as ambassador (he's there).

3) Get our troops out of Saudi Arabia. This was becoming a dangerous situation. We needed to get our troops out of there.

4) Cut up Iraq, like a side of beef and divvy it up to every franchise and his uncle in the US, like Arby's Muslim Beef, Kentucky Imam Chicken, MohammedDonald's etc etc. (it's been done). Make Iraq into a completely privately-owned franchise.

5) Let the religious fundies get their piece of the franchise (see #4). They were promised Iraq as their staging ground for converting the heathen masses to Christianity. This was the Bush Compromise in return for the Fundies' support.
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 10:37 PM
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4. I've also thought about those
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 10:39 PM by Democrat Dragon
My theory is that Iraq will be used as permanent military base attack other Middle Eastern countires and after sucking the oil out of those countries(and betraying the Saudis in the process) they might want to venture to Canada, France, Germany, or some other country that does not bow down to the Forth Reich. To the corporatists, this is pile of treasure and to the Jewish and "Chistian" fundies, it is a holy crusade. Nervertheless, both are benefiting. Some of these fundies also want their own slice of oil or military technology money.

But who is dominant group? The Corporatists? The Dominionists? The Straussians?

Who is using who?

What else in Eygpt do they want?
(I heard Hitler wanted to find the Ark of the Covenant and Napoleon invaded Eygpt)
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:51 AM
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5. Also,
6) The war is a big-scale money-laundering enterprise, a way to give money to Halliburton, Bechtel, etc.

7) Remember 1984? Constant war makes dissent synonymous with treason. Dissenters become as much the enemy as those we fight.

8) War justifies tighter control of the populace, in the interest of "National Security". (I almost typed "National Scrutiny"; funny how similar those words are.)

9) The resistance in Iraq makes some people, particularly RWers, believe that we should respond with more force, that we should squash the resistance, thus protecting the continuation of this war. In other words, we went there because it was a quagmire.

10) And Saddam Hussein was easily portrayed as a villain. The basis for this was laid in 1992.
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Georgia_Dem Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:04 PM
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6. A couple more reasons.
Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:05 PM by Georgia_Dem
11) Bush had personal reasons for going after Saddam. After all, the
guy tried to kill Bush's father and arguably contributed to Bush Sr.'s 1992 electoral defeat because the Gulf War didn't end in an invasion and made Bush Sr. look bad to some.

12) With his post-9/11 popularity bounce fading, Bush needed something to ensure his reelection.
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