Is the Conservative Movement Dead? (Conservative Voice)

[struggle4progress]

<snip> Says Bork: “With a single stroke…the president has…widened the fissures within the conservative movement. That's not a bad day's work--for liberals. The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq aside, George W. Bush has not governed as a conservative (amnesty for illegal immigrants, reckless spending that will ultimately undo his tax cuts, signing a campaign finance bill even while maintaining its unconstitutionality). This George Bush, like his father, is showing himself to be indifferent, if not actively hostile, to conservative values.”

In the article written by former Reaganite and Heritage Foundation fellow Bruce Bartlett, the reader was greeted with this singular item that went directly to the heart of the argument: “The truth that is now dawning on many movement conservatives is that George W. Bush is not one of them and never has been.” <snip>

The only way I see around this scenario is to tell the president, and the Republican elite in Washington in no uncertain terms, that staying home is exactly what will happen…by design. If the Republican majority in Washington cannot unite around true conservative values and principles--the Supreme Court being the most obvious and pressing--then perhaps the GOP needs to spend another few decades wondering the political wilderness in order to rediscover it’s roots all over again. <snip>

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9212


After Watergate, nobody would admit to voting for Nixon. It's looking more and more like we're going to see the scenario replayed with Bush II: "W? I don't know of anybody who voted for him. He's not really a conservative ..." As the foundation crumbles, an increasing number of people will be willing to contemplate the "unthinkable" possibility that there really WAS election fraud in 2000 and 2004 ...

[patricia92243]

1. "George W. Bush is not one of them and never has been." applies to neo-co

neo-cons and lots of his other "followers"

I think "to know him is to dislike him" - our Georgie is a nut.

[struggle4progress]

2. An alcoholic coke-head with a short-fuse -- ought to be a winner .eom

[BamaLefty]

3. Everywhere Except The South

It will still thrive here due to the religous aspect. But in key swing states, or regions for that matter, it is very weak right now.

Our message sounds much better than theirs in say, Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, etc.

[bluedawg12]

4. There is a division Between Libertarian-Cons and theocons

listening to Charlie Rose just now.


Libertarian-Cons scorn shrubs big government and profligate spending.

The theocons represented by Jay Sekulow of the Pat Robertson law center is now very supportive of shrub and pushing for Janice Roberts Brown.

In fact, they both agree on her and are itching for a fight with then Dems.

But underneath it all, the RW coalition is at odds.

the third group, who I think is separate, the secular neocons who have an outward global vision and go along with the domestic agenda for the sake of unity.

But, they report that 80% of repugs still support shrub.

So, where is the opportunity for Dems in this scenario?