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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:52 AM
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A telling change in the local Classifieds?
Up until about a week ago the Help Wanted ads in the local paper (Courier Journal, Louisville, KY) were broken down into about 35 categories including Accounting, Computers/Technology, Engineering and Manufacuring.

There are now four categories: Drivers, Healthcare, Sales and General.

Telling, no?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:54 AM
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1. In the Hartford Courant, there are barely two pages of ads
Used to be an entire section. On some days, the Employment ads don't even span two pages, and the PETS and TAG sales ads share the space.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:57 AM
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4. There used to be about six pages of healthcare ads here
covering all sorts of things like billing and transcription, as well as hands on health care.

Now there are two, and half of those are for jobs out of state.

They still run two "sections" of help wanted ads. Each section is one full piece of newsprint and two pages of that are taken up with adverts and articles.
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:58 AM
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5. Local classifieds are not really useful for attracting professionals
When you hire for more serious jobs you use other channels. I do hiring for our company and I cannot imagine putting an add for a computer consultant in the the Atlanta paper - I'd have to sort through thousands of applicants to get a few worth interviewing.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:05 AM
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9. They used to be in the classifieds here.
My husband (a professional) changed jobs about six years ago. At that time the classifieds were chock-full of relevant listings. I remember this with absolute clarity.
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:16 AM
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12. I think the internet is what changed things
Educated professionals all use the internet so job listings migrated.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:19 AM
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13. Yet Healthcare remains as a distinct category?
ok
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:40 AM
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15. I wondered about that - maybe its such a growing field
that they use all possible avenues to attract people.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:44 AM
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17. Sure, opportunities continue to grow in the healthcare industry...
unlike some of the others. I think that was my original point.
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:49 AM
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19. Then I apologize for missing your original point.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:11 AM
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20. So now you agree that opportunities in the other fields are dwindling?
:crazy:
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paul_fromatlanta Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 11:42 AM
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21. That's a separate issue
They are not dwindling in the areas where I am familiar with the job market but that's also a separate issue.

Certainly the kind of job my parents had is dwindling - going to work in management for a big company and being secure.

And certainly well paying production jobs in manufacturing are not just dwindling but are fleeing.

I'm still in contact with my 10 closest friends from high school - only two work for big companies - one in defense a big three accounting whereas eight of our fathers worked for big companies (the other two for the government).

On the other hand the other eight of us have all started at least one small businesses so I really don't know how sum up my impression of the larger market succinctly.

My initial observations were limited to commenting on the usefulness of the local want ads. Not being involved in health care I was unaware they were still used for good jobs in health care.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:59 AM
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7. The current Sunday classifieds look like the weekday
classifieds did a few years ago.

Scary stuff.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:54 AM
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2. very telling
:kick:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:56 AM
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3. The "Restaurant & Hotel" and "Lawn Care" sections...
...are the ones with the most listings in my area.
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DUHandle Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 09:58 AM
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6. Someone gave me a box of Christmas tree lights
Which were wrapped in Help Wanted ads from 1967.

Two of the categories were Help Wanted Men and Help Wanted Women.

Most of the jobs for women were for something called a “Gal Friday” and a few of them, to put it politely, were a bit “leering”.


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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:04 AM
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8. Yeah Sure, Uh-huh... The Economy Is Booming n/t
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:11 AM
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10. I think we've always had those categories in our papers....n/t
...
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:16 AM
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11. Yeah, it probably has nothing to do with the fact that
many of the original categories (particularly those listed) had a sharply declining number of listings under them. :sarcasm:
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Sammy Pepys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:42 AM
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16. Well, you can look at it two ways....
Either nobody's hiring, or everyone's been hired.
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:46 AM
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18. They're hiring...
only it's not US citizens and/or it's not in the US.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:23 AM
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14. That's not surprising.
Paul Craig Roberts wrote an editorial on job growth in America. Part of it said:

For the past five years US job growth was limited to these four areas: education and health services, state and local government, leisure and hospitality, financial services. There was no US job growth outside these four areas of domestic nontradable services.

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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-05-06 10:37 PM
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22. Another factor
the price to list a job in classified is on the rise up, I was working for a small business that was sold off one of their stores to an employee. I stayed with the larger orginal business but helped out new owner of the store till she could find a replacement. She told me it cost like $800 dollars to list an ad in the sunday classified section and two days during the week. This ad was basically a three lines, After hearing this no wonder small businesses don't advertise in the want ads.
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