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Tue Dec-02-03 09:11 PM Original message |
Why isn't there a standard used for projections? |
When i read all these projected deficits, and tax cuts, defense appropriations, they all seem to use different time scales. Why isn't there some sort of standard that is used to link all these projections to a common time frame? If i read about the tax cuts, then i read about medicare or social security, it is near impossible to figure out what each thing costs when they are all based on a different projected time frame. Is this intentional to dissuade people from realizing the true costs of things, or is it just a by-product of all the different organizations and the way they creat programs?
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Tue Dec-02-03 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. The committee chair (always GOP now) asks for budget est. over 5 or |
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 09:59 PM by papau
10 years - actually I've seen odd ball periods also.
If it is media PR useful to have one duration rather than another, that is what is asked for (the second 10 years of the Bush tax cut are horrible - so we do not discuss anything other than modernizing Social Security by cut's in benefits partially offset by start-up of private accounts, and cuts in Medicare in 2010 if taxes are not large enough to carry it at that point with less than a 45% general revenue insertion - - we do not discuss value of ending Bush tax cuts for the rich). So yes - they do try to confuse. WH controlled OBM is barely a calculation/projection area, but CBO is supposed to do an unbiased job - but they only do what the committee chair wants - so if 10 year sells better than 5 year projection - that is what you will get. |
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Tue Dec-02-03 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. notes |
The vast majority of such things that you read about are done for partisan reasons. Inevitibly the time frames or numbers chosen are used to persuade. Even if the original source is totally without spin, the numbers picked by the persuaders are cherry picked to put their spin on things. This applys especially when picking time frames. For instance I predict without hesitation that the Cubs will win the World Series. Within the next 200 years.
It is especially good to realize that reliably accurate prediction on anything is impossible, short of the sun will come up in the east tomorrow sort of thing. It's much better for forcasters, or for you, to pick a range of possible outcomes. \ Prediction on economic matters is very subject to just taking the current reality and projecting if forward. Virtually every public projection of the federal budget in early 2000 said deficits would not return for several years. THen the stock market cratered and the bull market ended. Then the recession came on. Then came the tax cuts. The three together decimated tax receipts. Then there was the out of control spending. Now the defits are at a record. So it goes. |
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Wed Dec-03-03 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. Because projections are just as much "art" as science. |
Just look at the quarter to quarter projection. You've got "high-powered" economists using all the data they can get there hands on to project a number that may only be days away and yet you read today?
That the third quarter productivity number was revised today past the 8.1% prior figure... past the 9.1%-9.2% "consensus anaylst expectation" to 9.4% (another one of those "highest in two decades" numbers we've been hearing lately. Plenty of good qualified people tryign to come up with a number of what happened in SEPTEMBER, and they can't agree. Ask them to predict what a system that hasn't been built yet will cost five years from now? What do you expect? |
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Wed Dec-03-03 10:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Figures.. |
not that i'm suprised or anything. I know everything connected with the economy and gov't is political in nature, it just seems idiotic that they can't stick to a certain standard. Of course that doesn't serve the political goals of any particular group so that's out of the question.
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Wed Dec-03-03 05:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Its always intresting what the "Economic Experts" can not do |
when there feet is held to the fire.
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Frodo
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Wed Dec-03-03 11:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Chaos theory & randomness cannot account |
For individual choices. That math isn't the hard part. Once you've got your variables defined and how they interact it's not very difficult.
The problem is that you CAN'T define the variables. And you can't identify the effect of one variable on another as well as you would like. You can make multi-dimensional computer models that try to watch how a series of changing conditions tend to inter-relate, but there are far more variables (more than one for each individual consumer when you get right down to it) than we can possibly know about. The dirty little secret of economics is the commonly used phrase "CETERIS PARIBUS". That is "all else being equal" (or something close to that). "Such and so variable condition will effect this number in that fashion 'all else being equal'". The problem is "all else" ain't NEVER "equal". This year they invent the cabbage patch doll and next year they don't. Who knew? Liberals and conservatives constanly argue about the income effect of tax cuts. We say (logically, but not always correctly) that if you cut taxes you will reduce income to the federal government (makes sense). They say, on the contrary... CUT taxes (especially the RIGHT taxes) and you will actually INCREASE income to the federal government. Guess what? They ARE BOTH RIGHT (and both wrong). There's a mathematical curve to define the condition (and I can't remember what it is called). If you are on one side of the curve, raising tax rates will actually DECREASE revenue. On the other side of the curve it works the way you expect. The problem is that you never really know which side of the curve you are on. But it does make some logical sense. When Kennedy(?) cut marginal rates from 90% to something like 70% for the ultra rich he did improve things. If you would only take home ten cents on each dollar you earn for overtime, you wouldn't be particularly interested in working that overtime for LESS pocket money per hour than you regular pay, right? So you won't work those hours, so you won't produce product for people to consume, so there won't be anything to tax at that rate. Lower it to 70% and you TRIPLE the takehome on that next hour of labor... maybe now it's worth it. And 70% of SOMETHING is worth a lot more to the fed than 90% of NOTHING. Lower taxes, increase revenue. There's some evidence that Reagan did the same thing. BUT shrub can't make the claim (though it doesn't keep him from trying) that lowering the upper bracket from 37% to 33% is going to do the same thing. So I take home a FEW extra bucks? I'm not going to do work I wouldn't otherwise do to bring in an extra 4%. Back to your point. Any economist who tried to give anything more than an educated guess about specific dollar figures five years down the road that will be affected by dozens of unknown (and unknowable) variables, whether his "feet were held to the fire" or not, would not be worth listening to. You make the estimate, you record what the estimate is based on (x% GDP growth, y% increase in medical costs, whatever) and you pray they don't grade you to the closest 30% five years later. France declares war on England tomorrow and your numbers are swamped with major variables you didn't (and couldn't) account for. Price of doing business. It also allows the rudest quack to pretend to be correct. Better game than the tent-revival fake evangelist... you can muff the prophesy and still get invited back on MSNBC to call the next one. |
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Thu Dec-04-03 02:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Not exactly. |
For individual choices. That math isn't the hard part. Once you've got your variables defined and how they interact it's not very difficult.
The problem is that you CAN'T define the variables. And you can't identify the effect of one variable on another as well as you would like. You can make multi-dimensional computer models that try to watch how a series of changing conditions tend to inter-relate, but there are far more variables (more than one for each individual consumer when you get right down to it) than we can possibly know about. The dirty little secret of economics is the commonly used phrase "CETERIS PARIBUS". That is "all else being equal" (or something close to that). "Such and so variable condition will effect this number in that fashion 'all else being equal'". The problem is "all else" ain't NEVER "equal". This year they invent the cabbage patch doll and next year they don't. Who knew? The problem is that we are not even talking about behavioral economics. We are talking about fiscal budget projections. And while there are still unknown variables, the range in witch they will be found can be effectively estimated. This is NOT economics. This is accounting. A completely separate discipline. Liberals and conservatives constanly argue about the income effect of tax cuts. We say (logically, but not always correctly) that if you cut taxes you will reduce income to the federal government (makes sense). They say, on the contrary... CUT taxes (especially the RIGHT taxes) and you will actually INCREASE income to the federal government. Guess what? They ARE BOTH RIGHT (and both wrong). And both are political. Exactly as rapier stated. The thing is that both leave behind them a track record than can be used to determine the effectiveness of the polices presented. And there is little room to argue on those results with the real economics. The more prosperous times in our history have all coincide with high levels of taxation. Recessions tend to become more prevalent in periods of low taxation. The position to try to argue from "liberal" or "conservative" economics is a straw man. There is no such thing as there is liberal or conservative notions of evolution or biology. There's a mathematical curve to define the condition (and I can't remember what it is called). If you are on one side of the curve, raising tax rates will actually DECREASE revenue. On the other side of the curve it works the way you expect. The problem is that you never really know which side of the curve you are on. But it does make some logical sense. No. This is a non-sequitor. If one can not determine upon which sides of slope you are on, than the predictive powers of such a chart are worthless. Than so too is the theory used to produce such a chart. One can not claim the understanding of such a phenomena, by embracing a state of institutional ignorance. The soundness of any theory is established by its powers of prediction, both past and future. Second, the argument to rise taxes results with a decrease in revenue is a mathematical impossibility, as revenue tied DIRECTLY tied to taxes. This is even more so to the converse, that reductions in taxes result in the increase in tax revenue. In fact, they are one and the same things. The position from which you are trying to argue is the differences between projected tax income, and actual receipts, witch depends on variables that reside outside of tax levies, and ignores the vary purpose of levying a tax in the first place, that of the providing of government services to the public. The vary function of government. This is why prosperity concedes with high taxation. Because this directly translates into high expenditures into public services and projects. Taxes to no feed black holes, save in Republican administrations. When Kennedy(?) cut marginal rates from 90% to something like 70% for the ultra rich he did improve things. If you would only take home ten cents on each dollar you earn for overtime, you wouldn't be particularly interested in working that overtime for LESS pocket money per hour than you regular pay, right? So you won't work those hours, so you won't produce product for people to consume, so there won't be anything to tax at that rate. Lower it to 70% and you TRIPLE the takehome on that next hour of labor... maybe now it's worth it. And 70% of SOMETHING is worth a lot more to the fed than 90% of NOTHING. Lower taxes, increase revenue. Hold on there. You have a bunch of assumptions in play in your reasoning that need to be pointed out. 1) You are assuming that the worker in question is earring at the top end of the spectrum. Most production persons make no where near the top end where the 90% or 70% taxation rate would apply. 2) You are assuming that "greed" is the only social motivator. 3) You are assuming that those who earn at the top end of the spectrum will spend the full sum of there tax savings. Something we know to NOT be true. 4) You are assuming that the worker might not have other reasons not to have over time. 5) You are assuming that a reduction in taxes will translate into working more hours, making up the lost revenue by earning additional income. And 6) you are assuming that you can predict the behavior of the worker. Something that you claim is NOT possible under CETERIS PARIBUS. |
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Thu Dec-04-03 06:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. OK. A quick response |
"Whoa!, back up the train" That isn't what I said. I do not mean that we cannot know the effect of various policies given generic circumstances. Only that to project specific dollar figures within the type of tight range the poster wants is impossible. Proof is simple enough... look at the "expected" cost of any program (SS, school lunch, whatever) and tell me which ten year projection came close? How can I give you an estimated cost of a new unemployment policy when you refuse to tell me what the unemployment rate will be during the next ten years? When the proposed policy is not even going to be the big factor affecting unemployment?
In short, "accounting" has very little to do with budget policy. They don't play at that level. You have to HAVE an accounting, but the "projections" we're talking about are NOT accountant-level numbers. I can give you a "pro-forma" balance sheet on my company for the next five years based on what my accountant fills out. But he does NOTHING until we put in all the important paragraphs at the start "presuming 2% year over year sales growth, 1% net emplyment cost growth per year, 3% decrease in materials cost, 15% in interest expense for long-term debt...etc.etc.etc. HIS numbers are just "fill in the blank" and I can teach any decent mathematical student to so that (and have). The "economist projections" at the beginning are THE WHOLE GAME. Doing it at the federal level is nothing about accounting. CBO projections are ALWAYS based on "x% GDP growth", etc. Change that ONE figure by a percent or two and the accountant is off by tens of billions of dollars. You statement on tax rates is not nearly as straightforward as you pose it. I think you are tied up in the current political debate over rates. Republicans have raised tax rates and Democrats have lowered it. It's incorrect for the Republicans to claim that one side cuts and the other side raises rates (though they still get play with that one at election time). "The more prosperous times in our history have all coincide with high levels of taxation. Recessions tend to become more prevalent in periods of low taxation." This is not just a gross over-simplification. It pretty close to "wrong". Obviously prosperous times are associates with high tax RECEIPTS, but not necessarily RATES.. Of course if the economy is booming you take in a chunk of a much bigger pie regardless of the actual rate... and during a recession you're getting less than expected even if you don't change rates. You've got your cause-effect backwards. Rates were quite high in the big recession of the early 20's and low as we came out of it (the "roaring 20's"). The start of the Great Depression coincided with a massive increase in tax rates (from 1.5% to 4% or so on the low end to the 25% to 60-something% on the high end). And forget Reagan vs. Clinton vs Bush... Tax rates were "high" by today's standards for most of the period from WWII to the early 80's and have been quite "low" since then. Tax rates under Clinton were hardly higher historically than under either bracketing administrations. Tinker a couple points here or there at the margins is not a big deal historically. The 81-82 recession was the last "substantial" one that we've had, and once rates dropped substantially we've really only had two recessions since the (over 20 years) when recessions used to be commonplace every 4-6 years. Recessions have certainly not been "more prevelant" from 1982 to today then they were from the Depression to 1981. As for marginal tax rates. You make a gross oversimplification. It is simply not true that "the argument to rise taxes results with a decrease in revenue is a mathematical impossibility, as revenue tied DIRECTLY tied to taxes." Revenue IS tied to taxes in tthe sense that taxes ARE the revenue. In dollars it's a 1:1 thing. But revenue is NOT tied to tax RATES (which is the discussion) nearly as tightly. There's no need to get into wild theory. Just answer a simple question. Would an income tax rate on every dollar (not just a marginal rate) of 99.9% bring in more income to the federal government than a tax rate of 40%? Not a chance. There is ALWAYS a curve for rate vs. income. The question is where that curve is. It's "theory", but it isn't useless because it can't be pinned down. The supply and demand curves are solid theory as well, but you can only know where they intersect today, you can't pin down precisely where each curve sits. You can estimate fairly that a given action will shift one or the other in a given direcion, but not specifically how far OR specifically where the intersection will be in the real world. |
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Thu Dec-04-03 09:04 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. oof! |
awful spelling.... too late to edit..... oh dear.
Well I SAID it was a "quick response". |
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Thu Dec-04-03 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Sorry- but I think you are "incorrect" or "make a gross oversimplification |
Edited on Thu Dec-04-03 11:19 AM by papau
We need to define "generic circumstances" and "tight range the poster wants" - and at some point in the conversation we should note that the Society of Actuaries has professional guidelines on making projections. Indeed the various econ models at Sloan and Warton have great stat relationship feedback variables and do indeed give reasonable projections - not only for a "which is more costly" answer - but also for "what is the cost". I grant you a "tight range" is impossible, but it is not until Bush went supply side silly did we get such looking through a rosy glass projections.
"When the proposed policy is not even going to be the big factor affecting unemployment?" - I understand feedback - I do not understand the point being made by this statement "Accounting" does affect the projections, because folks "know" the relationships, but if you screw up the accounting, those relationships no longer hold - so applying the "known relationships" gives projections that are screwed up. Bush's 3 coporate quarterly tax payments in one year and 5 in the next is such a screw up. I agree the the fill in the blank numbers for the math in the projection are only as good as the smarts that went into finding their values, but I suggest a spreadsheet mentality has not affected everyone in math! :-) True that Republicans have raised tax rates and Democrats have lowered it, and it is also true that the Republicans claim that one side cuts and the other side raises rates is bull. Your point? I do not quite follow your objection to "The more prosperous times in our history have all coincide with high levels of taxation." - if the rates are "low" but more is considered as taxable (say all of your interest income)does that make the statement wrong. But I also believe you may be correct - but so what? The Clinton deficit reduction increase tax was a decrease demand on capital markets idea - and not based on the goodness of higher taxes. You say "Revenue IS tied to taxes in tthe sense that taxes ARE the revenue. In dollars it's a 1:1 thing. But revenue is NOT tied to tax RATES (which is the discussion) nearly as tightly....would an income tax rate every dollar (not just a marginal rate) of 99.9% bring in more income to the federal government than a tax rate of 40%? Not a chance." - but that is a silly question. The Brits had a 106.5% marginal tax rate on dividends, and while stupid, the world did not end!- amd an actual 99.9% rate is not Capitalism. :-) I agree that there is ALWAYS a curve for rate vs. income - the "Laffer" curve - but Laffer's connecting random dots did not discover the curve. Indeed Supply Side Reagan cut those taxes and got less revenue !! contrary to myth !! indeed projections of Carter Tax rates show a recovery of about 60% of what Carter would have taken in - yet the GDP growth under the four years of Carter was 3.25% compounded, which compares nicely to the 3.33% of 8 years compounded achieved by Reagan. Indeed Reagan would not be as high as 60% if he had not increase payroll taxes - oh yeah - the other income tax! Seems the "Laffer" curve might be a step function! :-) That means NO shift for most actions - so your statement that "You can estimate fairly that a given action will shift one or the other in a given direcion" appears to be not valid as to tax rates. |
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Fri Dec-05-03 12:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. keeping at it. |
In short, "accounting" has very little to do with budget policy. They don't play at that level. You have to HAVE an accounting, but the "projections" we're talking about are NOT accountant-level numbers. Dude, it is the accountant that makes the actual computations. The accountant is the economic technician that makes executes, monitors, and maintains the intentions of policy. The accountant is basically a blue collar economist, and has a mastery over the real world applications. And it is a central function to statistical analyses to make predictions with the available data. Even completely random events and variables can be predicted within a field of probability. While we can not predict weather a coin will land heads or tails, we CAN predict the probability of it landing heads or tails, and that is 50/50. We can do the same thing with a die; there is a 1/6th probability that it will land on six. And a 5/6ths probability that it will NOT land on six. If we can do that with something that is completely random, than it is equally possible that we can apply the same concept to unknown variables. Projections are not only possible, but a basic function of accounting. The only folks who can't seem to make projections, are the boobs on Fox News who fancies themselves to be economic experts. They have tried to make predictions in the past. The economics room is LOADED with them as various supply siders slip in and brag about the wonders of tax cuts. And they have not only been proven wrong, but wrong repeatedly. It even astounds the supply siders at times. But rather than confront their own incompetence, they have spun this yarn about how difficult it is to make predictions. And I have no doubt this very thing is being taught in Yale and Harvard, even as the text books give them the vary tools needed to make just such projections. And the thing is that the projections of others outside the system have been proven to be right. Lets take the California electric crises for example. The economic experts working for the industry presented as fact the concept that deregulation will encourage competition, and this will improve efficiency, and this will drop prices. And it was submitted to the California State Legislature, to the record, that Carnahan's deregulation scheme would drop the price of electricity so much that it would be "too cheep to meter." But following that testimony came several consumer rights advocates who painted exactly the opposite, arguing that what was going to happen to electric rates, was exactly the same thing that happened to other industries when they deregulated. The prices in those industries rose. When deregulation passed, electric prices shot up from day one, as predicted. I can give you a "pro-forma" balance sheet on my company for the next five years based on what my accountant fills out. But he does NOTHING until we put in all the important paragraphs at the start "presuming 2% year over year sales growth, 1% net emplyment cost growth per year, 3% decrease in materials cost, 15% in interest expense for long-term debt...etc.etc.etc. HIS numbers are just "fill in the blank" and I can teach any decent mathematical student to so that (and have). The "economist projections" at the beginning are THE WHOLE GAME. Doing it at the federal level is nothing about accounting. CBO projections are ALWAYS based on "x% GDP growth", etc. Change that ONE figure by a percent or two and the accountant is off by tens of billions of dollars. Oh I love it. You tell me that projections can not be made. Then you hit me over the head with three of them. ![]() You statement on tax rates is not nearly as straightforward as you pose it. I think you are tied up in the current political debate over rates. Republicans have raised tax rates and Democrats have lowered it. It's incorrect for the Republicans to claim that one side cuts and the other side raises rates (though they still get play with that one at election time). "The more prosperous times in our history have all coincide with high levels of taxation. Recessions tend to become more prevalent in periods of low taxation." This is not just a gross over-simplification. It pretty close to "wrong". Obviously prosperous times are associates with high tax RECEIPTS, but not necessarily RATES.. Of course if the economy is booming you take in a chunk of a much bigger pie regardless of the actual rate... and during a recession you're getting less than expected even if you don't change rates. You've got your cause-effect backwards. But Steve Kangas makes exactly this argument. http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-taxgrowth.htm Myth: Tax cuts spur economic growth. Fact: High tax rates are correlated with economic growth. Summary: There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later. Almost all rich nations have higher general taxes than the U.S., and they are growing faster as well. And he has the states to back up his claim. As for marginal tax rates. You make a gross oversimplification. It is simply not true that "the argument to rise taxes results with a decrease in revenue is a mathematical impossibility, as revenue tied DIRECTLY tied to taxes." Revenue IS tied to taxes in tthe sense that taxes ARE the revenue. In dollars it's a 1:1 thing. But revenue is NOT tied to tax RATES (which is the discussion) nearly as tightly. There's no need to get into wild theory. Just answer a simple question. Would an income tax rate on every dollar (not just a marginal rate) of 99.9% bring in more income to the federal government than a tax rate of 40%? Not a chance. There is ALWAYS a curve for rate vs. income. The question is where that curve is. It's "theory", but it isn't useless because it can't be pinned down. The supply and demand curves are solid theory as well, but you can only know where they intersect today, you can't pin down precisely where each curve sits. You can estimate fairly that a given action will shift one or the other in a given direcion, but not specifically how far OR specifically where the intersection will be in the real world. Picture if you will, a primitive village found in the grass lands some where. Not a desert, minds you, but the wild flora and fauna are sparse enough to force the villagers raise most of their own food. And up on the hill, you would see a temple that looks an afoul lot like a barn. And this is not by accident as this is where the villagers keep scarred animals that the villagers believe have the power to insure bountiful harvests. Every day the villagers make sacrifices of grain and water to these carefully tended animals. Along comes and outside observer who finds this behavior bemusing. After all, it is painfully obvious that this village did not have a surplus of food. So they would clearly have more to eat, if they fed these sacred animals less. In fact, he notes a negative feedback loop here. If they give too much food to the animals, they might "sacrifice" them selves into an artificial famine, and be driven to give the animals even MORE food. Under this analogy, our friend's argument that cutting taxes results with more revenue begins to make senses. Here, you are basically feeding the "scarred animal," less, leaving more wealth for consumers and business. If you cut taxes, you will get to keep more of what you earn, and this in turn increases your buying power. This increases demand, and increasing demand dictates more labor, which in tern means more income, in turn meaning more tax revenue. The problem is that it assumes that the scarred animals in our analogy just sit there and eat. Our outside observer might learn in time that the villagers collect the dung, and mix it with compost to make fertilizer. They then spread these "blessings" back onto their fields. Or they might dry the dung, and compress it into bricks, using it as fuel. Cooking certain vegetables makes it possible form humans to digest the material. Expanding the type of crops they can grow for nourishment. They might also harvest the milk or even slaughter these same animals for meat when they mature. This being the case, the scarred animals are in fact returning back into the villagers food supply. The grain and water that they "sacrifice" to these animals is not wasted. Supply siders usually assume, indeed, they insist, that government has no role in economics. They argue that "no government program works," and wave off taxes as nothing more than a drain on the economy. That taxes collected fall into a fiscal black hole, never to be seen or heard from again. But they are wrong. Government taxes translate directly into government spending. And just like corporate or personnel spending can improve the economy, so to dose government spending. And not just in terms of government employee compensation or public contracts. Part of the function of government is to facilitate the vary economic system that it participates in. Government sets the standers for weights and measures, without which trade in any form would be impossible. Like wise, the printing of a currency also facilitates trade and economic activity. The courts allow for the arbitration of disputes. Fire departments protect assets by putting out fires in abandoned properties. The roads permit trade to take place. Technical regulations & standards permit technology to exist. There is the raw science that is taking place, from which new innovations bloom, as well as the educational institutions. Just to name a few of the services to which government performs. But these activities are not cheep. In fact some things like fire protection, law enforcement, and national defense, are down right expensive. These activities have absolutely no return for the out lays. This is where the black hole myth comes from. Government spends billions on defense programs, with zero return to the balance sheet. But this money doesn’t just disappear. It becomes fees for contracts, materials, compensation for soldiers, extra, which all flows back into the economy. Tax cuts of course force reductions in this spending. Or in the fed's case, rack up a huge national debt with accruing interest, and restrict your spending in that manner. Resulting in a negative impact against the economy. And where the economic boost of a tax cut tends to be short lived, the reductions in services results in a structural change to the economy that will remain year after year after year. Part of that structural change has to do with the money supply itself. When you cut taxes to the wealthy, it has been shown that they do not spend it, a necessary ingredient to pumping up the economy. Instead, they "invest" these savings in things such as stocks or bonds. But these things are not investments by any stretch of the imagination. They are speculative ventures, and in stead lock up wealth in privet portfolios. This results with something called hoarding, where dollars are taking out of the money supply. The more hoarding that takes place, the more restricted the money supply in circulation becomes. And as you know, when money supplies tighten. |
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