Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Global trade is shrinking, fast

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU
 
RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:43 PM
Original message
Global trade is shrinking, fast
By bsetser

It is hard to put lipstick on a pig.

China’s November trade data (a 2.2% year over year fall in exports; a 17.9% year over year fall in imports — see Andrew Batson of the Wall Street Journal) suggests that global trade is contracting quite rapidly. And since trade accounts for a rising share of global activity, it suggests that the global economy has stalled — and perhaps is contracting.

The fall in China’s exports suggests global demand is falling. And the fall in China’s imports on first blush seems larger than can be explained just by the fall in demand for imported components for China’s exports and sliding commodity prices: it suggests that Chinese domestic demand is quite weak …

http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/10/global-trade-is-shrinking-fast/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:48 PM
Response to Original message
1. That means the US combined trade deficit is that much bigger.
Since we're China's biggest trading partner, this isn't really good news for us.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:49 PM
Response to Original message
2. Could it be that China's poisoned products have killed off to many customers?
WE know the USA's trade policies have killed off too many jobs.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:49 PM
Response to Original message
3. I suspect China's fall in imports is related to summer oil prices
I imagine shipping companies got whacked on contracts for diesel fuel, which would have driven up import prices in China. What seems modest cost increases to us would slam Chinese working at 45 cents an hour pretty hard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 02:52 PM
Response to Original message
4. it suggests that Chinese domestic demand is quite weak
Of course its weak.

China didnt have enough time from initially embracing capitalism to this bust to build any sort of middle class to act as a buffer in an economic crisis.

Their economic collapse will happen far faster than most dare to think as a result.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-08 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
5. The dry bulk shipper stocks have jumped the last two days.
Edited on Wed Dec-10-08 05:20 PM by Joanne98
Sector Snap: Shipping stocks surge
Wednesday December 10, 12:26 pm ET
Shares of drybulk shippers rise on increase in shipping rates


NEW YORK (AP) -- Shares of drybulk shipping companies rose strongly Wednesday on signs that ships may be moving again and rates for the vessels are rising.

The Baltic Dry Index, a measurement of drybulk shipping rates on 40 major routes across the world, was up 12 points to 691.

The index has been bumping along at record lows in recent weeks as shipping rates plunged amid concern that demand for shipping could be weak due to the global economic downturn.

Wednesday's rise in the Baltic index helped boost shipping stocks even as one of the major companies, DryShips Inc., announced it was canceling a $400 million order to purchase four more drybulk carriers.

DryShips planned to buy the ships from companies controlled by its own chief executive, but it couldn't get bank financing and cited the decline in shipping since the deal was struck in July.

In midday trading, shares of Greek-based companies rose. DryShips gained $1.24, or 13 percent, to $10.69; Diana Shipping Inc. shares added $1.10, or 10 percent, to $11.60; Euroseas Ltd. added 55 cents, or 10 percent, to $5.85; and Navios Maritime Holdings Inc. rose 50 cents, or 20 percent, to $3.

Shares of New York-based Eagle Bulk Shipping Inc. added $1.62, or 27 percent, to $7.53; and New York-based Genco Shipping & Trading Ltd. rose $2.32, or 22 percent, to $13.02.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081210/drybulk_shippers_sector_snap.html?.v=1

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DRYS
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DSX

Look at the five day charts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 06:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC