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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:43 PM
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112K new jobs.....
so friggin what...even IF true.
For a "robust" recovery as some talking pinheads are claiming, we
would need close to 300K.
Pathetic, but I'm sure that Rove is working overtime to make this a
major spin for shrub.

Too bad for America...and too bad for Americans.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:45 PM
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1. we need 150K/month just to keep up with new workers
entering the workforce. So pardon me if I don't do a table dance for 112K.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:47 PM
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4. then throw in all
of us that got laid off since bush took over and haven`t found decent jobs....
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:47 PM
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2. Reality check
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:47 PM
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3. Where? Doing what? Paying how much? Not enough to support one
person decently,let alone a family. This is crap.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:55 PM
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6. According to today's Lou Dobbs show...
...the "new" jobs were in construction and retail.

A comment made on the show: "This is one of the best job creation months since Bush has been in office, but if it had happened during Bill Clinton's administration, it would have been considered his worst."

Please note that no one on the show was "praising" Bush when they said it was one of his "best" months. The comment was made to show how pathetic "the best of Bush" is.

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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:10 PM
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7. 112,000 new
pizza delivery men, making 95 cents an hour!!! wooohooooooooo!!
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:43 PM
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8. Wal-mart cashiers.....
or something worse...
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:48 PM
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5. What's fascinating to me
If you go here: http://www.bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab4.htm and click on the "unemployment rate" for the various educational groups, you will find that the unemployment rate among ALL educational levels *increased* yet somehow the overall umemployment rate decreased. Um, yeah...sure.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:55 PM
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9. When your unemployment runs out they use the new speak
no longer looking for work. It means you still don't have a job but they don't count you because they don't have to pay you unemployment.
Get it. A little slight of hand. Call it what it aint.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:16 AM
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13. This has ALWAYS been the arguement....
and something that's not brought up on the talking heads shows...
People don't understand how the unemployment index works but you've
pointed out THE major issue.
Now, couple that with the fact that millions of Americans, which
hold degrees and have high level of working experience, are now
effectively UNDERemployed. They're working jobs that are so alien
to their learned and educated professions its not even funny....yet
the government believes that they're "employed" and count them
as a "positive" number.
Never mind that these people are making HALF of what they used to
make. Never mind that they have lost their entire life savings while
they searched for a new job. Oh no...let's cheer the "great news"
of 112K retail and other non-professional services jobs....
:eyes:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 02:46 AM
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10. It was mostly retail workers.
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 02:47 AM by DanSpillane
If you read the fine print....professional jobs dropped.

Here's the chart

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040206/photos_bs/payrolls_012004_detail_graphic
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 04:50 AM
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11. Professional and manufacturing tumbled
:(
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:12 AM
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12. Yup...the continued "Wal-martization" of America.....
the underemployed masses. People that are taking ANY job just to
remain afloat. But the spin machine is on and they're going to start
claiming how this is "wonderful" news.... :eyes:
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 05:40 PM
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14. Why don't people understand this issue?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:21 PM
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15. It is a big issue
The trouble is they print the headlines from Bush.

The unemployment rate going down is a result of people giving up because they couldn't find jobs.

Some retail jobs were created, because people are borrowing money to buy things, as usual.

Professional and manufacturing jobs were lost AGAIN, many months into a supposed recovery.

The unemployment rate for minorities went UP!

There is a graph on my website showing this has never happened before. Look at the right bar compared to the ones on the left

http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/webfeatures_snapshots_archive_12032003
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DFLer4edu Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 08:05 PM
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16. I know, I'm just venting
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