Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Nationalize Now

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU
 
RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:16 AM
Original message
Nationalize Now
By Barry Ritholtz - January 26th, 2009, 7:12AM We’ve been repeatedly noting that the fastest, fairest, cheapest, most efficient way out of the current credit and financial mess is Nationalization.

As we have seem over the past few weeks, the country’s biggest banks — Bank of America and Citigroup — are deteriorating rapidly. They will need far more bailout money beyond the $350 billion of taxpayer cash and guarantees they have already received.

Note that the money already dumped into the black holes of these two financial institutions far exceeds their net worth. And in exchange for this foolish investment, taxpayers have received just 6% of Bank of America, and 7.8% of Citigroup. This is absurd. How a 120% of a company’s market cap yields a single digit ownership stake is beyond my comprehension.

The solution to the banks problems, as well as this ridiculous investment posture, is relatively simple: Nationalize the banks, appoint new management, give them 6 months to spin out 10% of each of the separate viable pieces, with the taxpayer retaining the rest as passive investors. For Bank of America, they can spin out 5 major pieces: BoA, Merrill, Countrywide, a Toxic holdings company, and a Good holdings company. The derivative exposure gets wiped out, put into the toxic holding section.

Stock holders get nothing; Since bond holders would receive some pro-rata share in a liquidation, they get a convertible preferred in the new debt free firm, as well as an opportunity to lend to the new banks at an generous convertible rate.

......

The current bailouts have shown themselves to be expensive, ineffective, and replete with Moral Hazard and other corrupting abuses. Not only are we wasting vast sums of money, but all too often, we are rewarding the incompetent management teams that created the mess in the first place. Its time to move past them.

Nationalize Now.

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/01/nationalize-now/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:22 AM
Response to Original message
1. We're giving OUR money to people who are investing it in FOREIGN competition,say goodbye to our jobs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:32 AM
Response to Original message
2. Citi just took delivery on a 50 MILLION dollar corporate jet
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 10:32 AM by Donnachaidh
I think we need to nationalize these bastards NOW.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:56 AM
Response to Original message
3. Agree completely. What is the market cap of BOA and Citi now?
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 10:57 AM by HamdenRice
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

It certainly makes no sense to provide an amount in bailout money for any bank that is greater than that bank's market cap.

That's why nationalization is better. I'm not sure, though, that the stockholders should get nothing if market cap is positive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec 27th 2024, 01:53 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC