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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:02 PM
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IF you thought your civic duty was met by just electing Obama president think again. HE needs your
help. Start emailing Congress and Pres. Obama himself. Help him out here. He thinks he can get somwhere talking rationally with republicans. The vote in the House on his stimulus package shows how that is going. The Republicans can slow anything down to a crawl if we let them.

Obama doesn't seem to understand what republicans are reall all about. I think we need to inform him that Democrats have been eager for partnership with anybody in achieving Good government for decades. But the Republicans really couldn't care less about Government succeeding (Limbaugh was just being honest in speaking for the Republicans. Limbaugh after all, is one of the most influential "thinkers" in the Republican Pantheon of Punk Politicos). He does convey the true spirit of many (most?) in the Republican anti-government party.


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:06 PM
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1. I've been using this site...
you click on a state and get phone numbers and addresses for the D.C. offices as well as offices in their state, and the web form link. My Senators are on board, so I've been calling Republican Senators.

http://www.capwiz.com/sjhs/dbq/officials/
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 08:00 PM
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3. ALRIGHT! (you're an activist!)
Edited on Thu Feb-05-09 08:03 PM by JohnWxy
:thumbsup:

another site is: www.congress.org
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 09:02 PM
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5. I do the very least I can...
and that site makes it so easy that I should be ashamed of myself if I can't at least make a phone call.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 01:07 PM
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2. How do you know Obama hasn't been bought and paid for like most politicians?
:tinfoilhat:



Okay, I am being somewhat extravagant with the

:sarcasm:

but still.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 08:17 PM
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4. The "stimulus" is a mistake
People are acting like bad economic times have never happened before. They have, in fact happened before, and people have tried throwing money at the problem while ignoring the root causes before. It didn't help then, and it won't help now.

At least study the Japanese experience... all the "stimulus" and interest rate reductions and "quantitative easing" in the world didn't do them a spit of good.

I find it mind-boggling that people are supporting spending a trillion!!! dollars and don't think it's worth the time to study the problem before laying that kind of money down.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 09:11 PM
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6. study the problem?
You mean what caused this, what the effect is, and how we can mitigate the effect? I think the 'problem' is that people do not see 'what's in it for them'. And yet, they don't bother to read what is in the bill. You must be very secure in your job, and not care about millions who have been laid off. That's a shame. Your state must be doing great, and you obviously have no need for safe roads, or bridges to travel on. You must also have and excess of services, like fireman, and policeman, and way too many libraries. Why bother doing anything for this country or its citizens?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:31 PM
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7. The root cause
The root causes of the problems in our economy are an excess of debt and an excess of corruption in government. This nation as a whole went overboard in borrowing and spending beyond its means for a long time - now the bill is coming due.

This bill does nothing to address any of these issues. It is based on the proposition that if you borrow and spend a lot of money, the economy will magically restart itself. This kind of financial voodoo doesn't work, it hasn't in the past, and putting a trillion dollars on what is essentially an article of faith is a highly irresponsible action.

Every dollar of this bill's spending will be borrowed. To deal with the problem of debt by taking on a huge new one is like drinking whiskey to cure alcoholism. This country is debtaholic and until that problem is solved the economy is going nowhere. Japan went through the same thing in the 1990s, real estate bubble and all.


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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-05-09 11:48 PM
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8. I believe Reaganomics is the cause..
and I kind of agree that letting the country collapse might be the best thing. I really don't care if the people in this country suffer. I'm on my way down the hill, not up. Eventually, the higher up they are the harder they will fall. And that I would love to live to see.

In the 1970s and 1980s, many of the industrial giants in the United States, Europe, and Japan became global companies; they no longer wanted to claim allegiance to any country in the world. By becoming global companies they could force nations to compete with each other to attract their companies to build factories in their countries. By the 1980s, these global companies, now often called Transnational corporations (TNCs) were aggressively using this strategy of globalization to blackmail countries into reducing their costs and increasing their profits. I believe that President Reagan's economic program, which Phillips and others have called Reaganomics, reflect the increasing reality of the global industrial economy and the power of TNCs to blackmail even the biggest and strongest countries and force them to create economic, political, and social conditions that will reduce their companies' costs and increase their profits. Let's now look at some of the major demands these TNCs imposed on industrial countries in the 1980s and 1990s:

Demands Made by Transnational Corporations to do Business in a
Country under the Global Economy

1. Greatly reduce Corporate taxes and taxes on the rich.

2. Greatly reduce government spending in order to cut taxes.

3. Increase taxes on the middle-class and poor to pay for the necessary government services, such as support for TNCs.

4. Reduce environmental, work-safety, and product-safety regulations.

5. Provide millions and millions of dollars in tax incentives and subsidies to TNCs in order to convince them to locate in your country.

6. Build and support modern industrial factories for TNCs to use rent-free.

7. Create tax-free export processing zones so that TNCs can produce products without paying any taxes at all.

8. Reduce and lower worker's wages by keeping the minimum wage low or eliminating the minimum wage altogether.

9. Reduce the costs of hiring workers by reducing or eliminating workers' compensation taxes, social security taxes,and health insurance taxes.

10. Allow child-labor at almost any age and under any conditions.

11. Do not enforce maximum work-day hours, such as the eight hour day or the 40 hour week.

12. Use government power to crush and weaken labor unions. Allow companies to hire security firms to harass and intimidate workers and unions.

13. Allow TNCs to freely take their money and profits out of your country.

14. Reduce government support for health-care, education, and anti-poverty and anti-hunger programs, forcing workers to work for any wage just to take care of and feed their families.

15. Support global free trade and work to prevent countries from denying companies the right to sell their products despite the brutal conditions, environmental destruction, and exploitation of their workers.

16. Don't restrict or limit immigration and encourage high levels of unemployment in order to force workers to compete by working for lower and lower wages.

17. Limit and restrict local and national government control over their economies. Encourage global bodies to set economic standards that will benefit TNCs.

18. Limit the ability of workers and citizens to challenge the TNCs and their own government's economic programs which help the TNCs at their expense.

19. Create massive national debts in order to bankrupt governments and force them to be even more at the mercy of the TNCs. Governments can thus say they have no choice but to accept these conditions.

20. Force your citizens to accept lower standards of living and quality of life in order to guarantee higher profits for TNCs.


http://www.colorado.edu/AmStudies/lewis/2010/decline.htm
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:47 PM
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10. Look at NATO.
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:05 AM
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9. If "Obama doesn't seem to understand what republicans are reall all about", he's dumb as a post
He knows. This is just what he's about -- that's what the "post-partisanship" bullshit was about all along. He was clear on that. This is his agenda. *shrug* He's got his, so he doesn't have to worry. Why would a pol behave otherwise?
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