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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-14-09 04:13 PM
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Goldstein's comrade, again,again.
Greetings, Comrades! Good news for our friends at China Rail having secured a $1.8 billion contract to build a monorail in Mecca. The second $1.8 billion contract in a week with the Robed One's and this on the heels of a major agreement to provide infrastructure in the land of Saud for billions more for the "We can build that inc." known as the Mao All Stars. Our locally owned corporate providers didn't get the contract. Much too busy writing winning bids for homeland projects no doubt.

The news of the Stimulus/Save America Plan is that of the Patriot Act's first full length review before passage. It likewise was passed into law with contents unknown. This time it's economic terrorism/doom and gloom that needs attending to.

Even as we watch and are being watched, we find less transparency from the Central Committee's policy maker's. The TARP will be TALF will be T something or other which in one form or another becomes D E B T to be repaid with T A X E S. Mostly hidden in higher interest rates on credit cards and consumer debt, less interest paid on savings accounts, tighter credit all round, less investing, slower replacement of equipment, more job losses, higher health insurance fees, fewer teachers, bigger class sizes, higher crime rates, continued deflation.

Thank god we are NOT in a depression! What the hell is that going to look like? Let us all give praise to the wonderful bankers, brokers, their lawyers, and THEIR Congress. For only those who buried us, shall resurrect us. A little faith and a few trillion more is all they ask.

We shall not be pessimistic. We shall become that city on that hill once again. Glowing! Sending forth the light of freedom's call to free markets where ever they may exist. We shall embrace the wrong doer's and turn the other cheek so they may smite it also. For we stand on principle.

We do don't we? We do believe in justice for all don't we? That justice is tempered with mercy? That we shall forgive those as they forgive us? Forgive us our debts?

What was Nixon thinking when Kissinger told him, they were going to China?


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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 08:57 AM
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1. The Rolling Stones.
Comrades, dust off " Your nineteenth nervous breakdown " and follow up with " Street fighting man" and you have all you need to know as to where all this is going.

Optionally, "Give Peace a Chance" is our preference. It does appear the Central Committee is more in tune with their own version of house music. Everyone came for a good time and wound up with the mother of all hang overs. The bar bill is still unpaid. A bigger line of credit is desired to keep the good times going. Even under new management?

There are two recommended cures for hang overs. One, stop drinking. Two, keep drinking. Which brings us to the need for intervention. If they can't or won't stop drinking, send them to rehab and pray it works. The problem with that is no ever got sober until they wanted to. Some never get sober.

How much can one loose before one hits the bottom? Everything. In economic terms, we are about half way there. It is time to put away the things that got us here in the first place.

Goldstein is looking forward to our recovery. The party will party on as long as no one pulls them over in a sobriety check. That's why there are so many limos in DC.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 09:45 PM
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2. Where is Jesus when you need him most?
Really, comrades! Someone needs to chase the money changers from the temple. The Central Committee is full of its' self deception. The idea of holding meetings for bipartisan input is the best the party can offer. And offer they shall. No earmarks for you congressman. You must take stimulus monies for the good of the Nation. Yes, you can complain and fuss if you're in the right wing. But, you will take the money! It would be Un-American not to.

Well, at least we know why there was no cry of foul play by the lobbyists, they don't have to lobby. All they have to do is just show up for the meet and greet at the Great White Bunker.

Socialism. Nationalism. Combine in equal parts until you have National Socialism. Yes, good citizen you will still get to vote. You will still pay taxes. Some bad banks will be nationalized because the Central Committee will be forced into making that difficult choice. It was never their first choice. It is for the good of the economy. Main street. The little guy. Joe six pack.

Now,to the Middle Kingdom. The Mao All Stars were very happy to see Ms Chairperson. In one day or less, they had concluded a deal to bring peace to the Pacific rim. To ensure trade and the flow of resources to their mutual advantage. Who will benefit is not for you to know. Comrade, you are much to busy to worry about the coming and going of tenths of percents of currencies trading.

In other news, we shall have half a budget deficit. Compared to what, no one is quite sure. We can expect a rain forest some where to be halved also. That to print a compendium of inclusively to be called the New Bill and All It's Bits and Pieces Federal Budget so help me god. Like Ann Rand's epic, you might buy the book, but unless your a masochist or an economist, possibly one in the same thing, you won't read it. Neither will the Party.

This to shall pass. As always, the party is here for your protection.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:17 PM
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3. Bretton Woods III
Coming sooner than you think, good citizen. We need not rehash the down ward seeking policies of past party policy making. We do need to look at the status of the global market to see were all this is intended to go.

The grand meeting to save the world's banking system from failure. How much more pain must be inflicted in order to get us there is still open to question? We are not without hope and despite the doom sayers, self included, we are optimistic.

Goldstein's comrade optimistic? Truly. But, WHY? Well, comrades, there is a populist government in power. Mandated to change past policies and correct future plans. The best and brightest and likable and confident and center left to boot.

They have all of one year before the next swap met begins. That would be Congressional elections and shifting majorities. Impatience is a virtue of the modern age.

So, will it take an S&P 600 and 10% unemployment to get them to were they need to be at the table for the realignment of BW III to emplace a global financial structure with regulations that will cause stabilization in the finance markets? Which is one reason why the Minister of Wealth has so little to say. Bank nationalization being so,so spooky!

We are getting closer all the time. And we know how much over correction is likely to take place in the mean time. About five additional trillion dollars in this country. So, what's it to be? Collapse what's left of the global economy and tank the banking system or inflate the debt here that in turn will collapse the dollar and take the rest of the global economy with it? Not to many options left.

Will the pain of economic depression become so severe across the world to bring the government to a state of emergency?

Living history. The one thing the party wishes you would forget. Our friends tell us the drug companies are working on that very problem. The media has failed to dissuade you that all is about to be well. The party always here for your protection and viewing pleasure.

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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-01-09 04:49 AM
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4. Bravo, comrade!
You do it so well.

Please, keep it up!

More!
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 02:42 PM
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5. Happy days are here again...
The sky is clear and we're free from fear, 'cause happy days are here again! If you don't know the words, just hum along and bob your head from side to side.

Now don't you feel so much better? No? Falling stock market got you down? Under water on the mortgage? For closed? Unemployed? No health insurance maybe? The American dream lost from sight perchance?

There is a recurring theme in our business cycle, good citizen, called despair. Our first lesson was the the downturn of the 1970's. And a repeat performance in the 1980's. Neither event had the quality this downturn brings.

Each event leaves an anger compounded by the disgust that the government would let this happen? Until the realization came that the problem is not government. Government is self serving. It's function is to ensure its' survival. That it could, should it choose to, fed you, cloth you, provide you with shelter, and health care are not utopian dreams. All may be poorer but, none would starve is not acceptable because of the Marxian bent? So the cost is the issues? The lack of riches? The opportunity to attain wealth comes be for all else? Cost in this system accounts for expenses and PROFITS. Capitalism.

This is the mind set of the government. If the government provides care to a portion of the populace it must therefore come at a cost to someone else. The wealthy purchase access to their Representatives and can influence the out come of tax laws. The cost to you for the government's programs are paid for by taxes. When the government issues bonds, debt obligations, they are backed by the faith you will pay your taxes.

The events of the past two years and with all probability the next two, have set the stage for this century's economic system's revision.

I'll repeat that. The events allowed to happen by the government have set in motion a revision of
of our place in the economic system. Not just within these borders, but across the world.

There's something burning across the seas. The party knows it.

Comrades, there is change coming.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 04:40 AM
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6. cleansing light
a little faith and just a few trillion more, i ask not what my country can do for me...
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 07:12 AM
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8. who the cap fit...
Ah thinkin' we kilt no deputy.....yet they want to bring me in guilty for the life o' some deputy....

You got to see the man for who he is, not what him say....
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 05:20 PM
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7. Welcome back Comrade!
:hi:
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 07:14 AM
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9. You've been busy..
:hi:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:35 PM
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11. Yep.
:fistbump:
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:20 AM
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10. The Banks.
Comrades, the Central Committee will take several banks into receivership, their mistake will to be to return them to the "free market". There is nothing free about this market. Yet, the friends of the party insist deregulation and free markets are the only way out for the banks. This is a lie of epic proportions.

Goldstein recommends we keep the banks. Replace the management. There is a large management pool available within the federal agencies with which to provide regulatory oversight. The FBI, Secret Service, DEA, IRS, US Armed Forces, all contain qualified personnel available for this task.

The commercial pool of layed off MBA's is large enough to restore middle management positions if necessary. Regulation reverts to pre 1995 rules. Everything not covered is now suspended from activity until regulation is available. Sorry, that's just the way it is. It's called preservation of capital. The right wing understands exactly what that means.

Goldstein also recommends we clear the derivatives market the first week in May. Open auction with 2% fee payable to the US Treasury on all assets sold. After which all derivative contracts are voided. Auction to run 10 hours a day for six days. 25% up front, 25% in 30 days, and the balance split into three payments each year for three years at 3% interest from the Federal Reserve. It's called recapitalization. The right wing, well you know..

For the housing market we recommend the following, all foreclosed property to be revalued based on mark to market price and available for sale at 30 year fixed at 3.25% provided you live in the house as your primary residence. After 90 days, if no bids are received on a property, it is available to anyone at 5% fixed 20 year mortgage. If you can't afford it, you can't own it.

Now, good citizens, argue amongst yourselves as to why this won't work. Or ask the party in power why they don't have a plan as incompetent as this one. For the party remains in power on both sides of the fence collecting your tax dollars.

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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 10:13 PM
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12. Woodrow Wilson
Good citizens, perhaps it is just a reflection of the imperfection at the recognition of past dead presidents; but is there not the feeling of de je' vous in the recent international tone by heads of state? In particular our commander in chief.

Why is there a calm upon the troubled waters while beneath the surface chaos runs at full tilt boogie? Fundamentals are useless. Economic theory is for naught. Valuations are pure chance. Debt about to double at the national level. Employment dropping off the cliff. And there appears this offer for the G 20 to put up a few score billion for the IMF to play with?

The IMF? Who pray tell would contrive to put the IMF as the back stop to a global melt down? Not their style, to say the least. When it comes to separating the citizen from his wealth, the IMF has a track record Wall Street only dreams of.

If there ever was a man who committed this nation to his principles, Woodrow Wilson is hard to beat. A man committed to a non aggressive diplomatic policy. As commander in chief willing to talk to anyone willing to talk to him. His purpose was to adjust through dialog adversaries into peace and the peaceful into a one world governmental organization. All in the pursuit of non aggression and the promotion of enlightened civilization through trade.

These are the underpinnings of a free democratic nation willing to go to war to prove the point. We are committed to world peace. Trade is essential for prosperity to flow into every corner of the globe. And we are willing to go to war to keep trade flowing.

If after this war, this nation becomes the first among equals, well so be it. God has ordained it. Destiny demands it. Our economy depends on it. And the power of the party is assured by it.

The League of Nations is born. The Military Industrial Complex modernizes. The Russian Revolution betrays its' own people. Twenty odd years later and the end to another economic cycle of global collapse and the new World War begins the next economic cycle.

We are even more optimistic at the prospect there is change coming. What position did the Minister of Wealth take on the Lama Trade zone peso failure that he applied to the Rice Propelled Trade zone yen collapse? And the IMF did what to who at his direction?

As always, comrades, the party is new and improved. You have their word on it.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 12:25 PM
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13. Who writes with a voice
like a jazz musician who has mastered his axe? And with a depth of history and understanding too? Who IS this wetserbus anyway...

So I have this cap... but don't know which head, or heads, are capless from this:

"We are even more optimistic at the prospect there is change coming. What position did the Minister of Wealth take on the Lama Trade zone peso failure that he applied to the Rice Propelled Trade zone yen collapse? And the IMF did what to who at his direction? "

My own head turns like a confused cat, can you help set it straight?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 02:19 PM
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14. Itsa shame more folks don't "get" westerbus.
Fascinating writing, IMO.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 08:40 PM
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15. Who runs the Treasury? n/t
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 09:12 PM
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16. Those that were born
and raised on the floor at the entrance to the temple? Ultimate insiders that learned not the art of sound investing, but how to cheat and lie till getting their own money changing table?

westerebus has given me a new outlook. If someone from Virginia gets it....perhaps there is a Santa Claus
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 10:43 PM
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17. The case for a human face.
Comrades, if perchance you saw the Head Fed last Sunday night; you may have thought, he's seems like a likable person. He taught himself calculus and worked at South of the Border. So he's nerdy and humbled by his past work experience.

All may be true. The reason for the interview? That is a different matter.

What you saw was a counter intelligence operation in action. First, to personify the target that was objectified as an identifiable cause of great suffering by a mass of people. Thus providing a reasonable moment of doubt in the minds of possible actors with ill intent on his person. The short version comrades, a personable person is a much harder target to justify removing then say another arrogant bank president who foreclosed on your home. But this isn't the whole reason.

There is nothing this man can do at this point but to say: we've done everything we can do and we will continue to try. The message here is clear. When the bus goes off the cliff please remember, I'm not the driver.

A forward looking defense. Should, or if and when, the next leg downward topples over and crashes the financial system, the cover story is in place. A version of plausible denial ability. Are you listening in the Great White Bunker?

What was interesting to Goldstein was the lack of human beings within the building itself. The notable exception was the fellow running down the stairs as though the fire alarm went off.

One can hope.

The party continues to support their friends in high places with all possible assurances and insurance afforded to the few paid for by the many. How long the many will willingly pay is questionable.

May be the right to life wing of the party has a point. It will take generations to pay off these bills. So get busy and create some more tax payers.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 02:14 AM
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18. Bravo, again! n/t
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:44 PM
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19. When all else fails...punt!
Good citizens, you are of course overwhelmed with joy at the Partnership In Seeking Solutions Every Day by Offering Fabulous Fortunes to those with 10 billion in asset management experience. Please send your resume as soon as possible so the can plan can go forward with all due speed.

You will have to take some time out from day trading, but you could get in on the penthouse floor if you're willing to leave your morals or ethics on the other side of the magnetometer. Then you may have left them behind in your other suit in the first place. If you are accepted into the high command of economic stimulus, you won't need to worry about personal security. You will have a detail assigned to you for that purpose. Risk has reward.

The nature of your work will require considerable mathematical conjecture and market theory implementation. Nothing a bright well connected fellow should worry about. A good word from any member of the firm will due as references will be required. You may bring fraternity fellows or sisters to assist as there are considerable vacancies at the present time.

The plan is simplicity it self. Lend good friends other people's money to help other friends repair their balance sheets. And you may slice the pie as you please.

Yes, comrades, it's come to this. We shall be in corporated. Not capitalized. Not socialized. Not Americanized.

Comrades, we shall be P.I.S.S.E.D.-O.F.F. !!!
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 07:03 AM
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20. Federal Credit Reform Act of 1990.
Good citizens, we bring you greetings and a glimmer of hope. Given the current version of wealth transfer from you and I to the already wealthy, we would like to recommend the plan to be placed under the Federal Credit Reform Act of 1990.

What does this do? Why do we have such an Act? Why is no one talking about it? Because it would make the process go from off the books of our government to on the books of our government. It's that old accountability thing you keep hearing about.

In a nut shell, if a government program will incur a loss, money must be appropriated to cover said loss. Should the plan expect to loose say $350 billion because not all toxic assets are equal, the Congress would have to appropriate $350 billion and put it on the books.

So the party can with all due diligence appropriate the transfer of your kid's education funding to the bank shareholders. Or let's say it will cost $800 billion in losses given the 40% drop in house values, that should raise some concern come election time.

They want you to cut back, to be prudent in your spending, responsible with your finances, well here's an opportunity for your government to do the same.

The answer to question three. That's pretty obvious at this point.

As always the party here now, and forever! You can bet your house on it.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-25-09 07:48 AM
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21. SOLD TO US!
Waiting patiently for the "reach around"...
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 12:00 PM
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22. Oh goodie! What a week!
Living history is amazing good citizen. Thank your lucky stars you are an American. We may be in financial restraints and woozy from the dips in our wealth, but we are not in complete free fall. Really, we're not.

There are no runs on the banks. Why? The Fed has pumped trillions of dollars into markets so money does indeed flow. Need a loan and have better than good credit, not that big of a problem. Not too cheap mind you, but, not impossible to get.

Stock market rally a bear or bull? Who cares. Honestly. Unless your a day trader or hedge fund manager and alike, why bother. Knowing it only has two ways to go. Up or down. We've already lost trillions in GDP. Now that is a concern.

Bonuses? Trivial. A few hundred million. We spend that ever day in ammunition. Truly, we do. Bail out plans? Another swipe at GDP. Another concern.

Private, take no risk we got your back, bank rescue plan with more borrowing from our friends at the FED. No worries. We can print more. And why the hell not!

The Euro zone is talking unification under Germany's Bankestbund.Yes, I know it's supposed to be Bundestag Bank, it just makes more sense the other way round. Being the only euro zone nation with a viable economic model.

The Mao All Stars are hot to buy into the IMF. Japan wants their killer migraine to just kill them and get it over with. Both are kicking themselves silly over all the US debt they hold.

The Robed One's are buying into any thing that will come out of this down turn with any value at all. Seems they got a camel's nose under the tent wall just before the market went south, being just after the greatest spike in oil price history. Thank you uncle and beloved brother of the former residents of the Great White Bunker.

To which, comrades, we may add the concern of the rest of the planet as to why we are not spending money like we are supposed to. YOU are the capitalists pigs for crying out loud. Spend the money on ipods and steal the music.

No single payer health care? To expensive? Don't want to expand Medicare to cover every body? How about this, every body drops their employer provided health insurance come election day. Then dear Central Committee who pays the bill? But, look at all that money the Insurance companies have to invest into decrepit, old, worn out, noxious bank assets.

Just nationalize the hospitals. If your so reluctant to do so with the banks. Banks never cured anyone in the first place.

We are disturbed at the profound sense of injustice found in the faces of the Too Big To Fail bankers who met with the Commander and Chief on their way into the meeting.

Goldstein is shocked at their bliss after said meeting.

Well comrades, you get what you pay for.

The party, always.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 10:52 PM
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23. Hold every thing.
Comrades, we are now completely anti-optimistic. This is not a half full, half empty glass statement. It ranks with; this is not a drill, take cover now.

But, Goldstein, you said your were optimistic change was coming? True. And it is coming. So are death and taxes. You don't rejoice at either prospect unless its' the other guy paying or dying and at that, someone who was grievous to begin with.

Why the change in outlook? Comrades, the G20 has set in motion the next great pillaging and rape of the under developed communities of the world. Along with the continued policy of semi autonomous rule within the security state of restrictions imposed by the parties in power. What those smiling faces have agreed to is the expansion of the corporate dictum, money conquers all.

This is beyond greed for wealth. This, the lust for absolute power and control, unification of effort to regulate and cooperated across borders is an expansion of winner take all politics. We have watched as the first wave in the seventies dismantled the industrial base and allowed pension funds to be raided in this country. The second wave of the eighties, where in the military arm of the complex secured it's power to consume national wealth unabated. Additionally, the security services configured national and local police forces into a paramilitary force with the war on drugs and the institutionalization of prisons for profit.

The third wave of the nineties, removed the protections of workers from unjust competition from foreign sources under the rubric of international economic cooperation. It opened the world to a unrestrained corporatism intent on disbanding the rule of law. It gave to itself what it has no right to. Sovereignty.

The fourth wave, culminated in the doctrine of the emancipated presidency, free of any constitutional concern. Above and beyond the reach of law. Providing additional wealth and power to a select few. Those few inside the halls of power and in support of the party organization.

The market is giddy with the prospect of a unified economic model they control.

Comrades, we come not to praise Caesar. We come to bury him.

The party, here to praise you.

For you are the good citizen. On that they rely.

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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:16 AM
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24. Moving to action.
Will it be planned? It depends on which side moves first. Should the party continue it's current policy of mutual support for the Central committee's plan to a corporatist national economy, the answer is no.

Why, no? Fear. That simple ingredient added on each and every news event with out interruption. That there is a possibility you can not trust your neighbor, your spouse, your family, your friends is all pervasive. It instills doubt. And for the party, doubt is good enough to prevent assembly.

We are the nation of "individual opportunity". This is what the party wants you to take as fact. Look at the last election cycle. How more obvious a proof do you require?

Rise above the notion we are separate and unequal. Rise above partisan politics. Rise above the call to investigate wrong doing.

Keep the conversation moving forward. Allow a dissident voice to be heard, but assure action is directed by those within the party's domain.

How then will the people know they have reached the bottom? Action will become spontaneous.

The move from the passive aggressive state will not be enough to satisfy the mob. Elections are bought and paid for. Party ownership of possibility is reality. Dependence upon party and it's government remains the cornerstone of corporate planning.

Comrades, none of the above actually occurred. None of the above will occur.

The notion, your are loyal to those who will betray you, and fearful they will not be there when you need them most, is the theory of double think in practice.

And how does this tell us anything about the out come of the current policies? What has been planned and passed into law will stand. What is broken remains to be fixed. That you are poorer now is going to give the market new opportunities to take what they will.

Moving to action.

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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:35 AM
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25. New money for old.
Well it's something like that, good citizen. It's super money. Super in the sense of super natural. Unearthly. Without a corpus. Not found to have a rational explanation, though one is tempted to have faith in the reason(s) offered.

The question for the Mao All Stars, the Robed Ones, the Corporati, and assorted others is thus: how do we prevent our wealth from devaluation, given the direction imposed upon a nation that is expanding it's debt while their economic model is contracting, or default?

Answer, new money. Simple.

This is Bretton Woods 111. Feeling queasy are we? The Force moved into the grey zone has it? Well, good citizen, you are not alone. What started the last Great Bubble was the removal of the Gold Standard. Thus allowing the expansion of debt as a policy to growth. The open ended balance sheet. Dam the debt, we're growing!

We find ourselves in the final notice phase of that agreement. Time to pay up or out or stimulate or just say no.

Do we have the ability to pay up? With more dollars, yes. Do they want more dollars? No.

Can we pay out? Same as stimulate? Borrow today into the future when all god's children come to jesus? We are certainly going to try. Given the Central Committee's current path.

Say: No. We did once and look where that got us. We almost rule the world. So why not a replay?

Those "other" people are not interested in playing that game. Excuse me, policy.

So do we return to the Gold Standard? Not in your life.

What then?

How will those interested parties revalue debt in dollars and not collapse the dollar as the world reserve currency? How do you not shoot yourself in the other foot when that foot is in you mouth?

New money for old. Now boarding all first class passengers.

Or as they say in the EU, can we get some regulation si vous plais?

The party expects all good citizens to vote in the firm belief that what ever happens, it's the other party's fault.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:32 PM
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27. But the bicameral uniparty is counting on the fact
that we have nothing preventing our ears from smashing right together! C'mon now!

westerebus, in gratitude...
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:56 PM
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28. So true, comrade, so painfully true. n/t
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:47 AM
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26. Hi Comrade!
:hi:
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:59 AM
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29. Across the pond.
The EU has a mind to take care of its' interests despite all the good news reported from the last G20 meeting. The proposal is to sell EU bonds as a counter to US bonds. The incentive here is to keep the euros at home. Not only euros if you read between the lines.

Coupled with a tax on investment capital that would be devoted to a stabilization fund to cover counter capital flows during banking/market induced down turns. A form of Icelandic insurance fund.

Hot money inflows following investment opportunities in developing neighbors of the EU community and the less developed EU partners would find itself facing a modest tax at transaction time. The cost of doing business, insurance and tax, nothing new. The where the tax goes is.

Not into a general fund of said country for their politicos to fund back to the banks during boom times, but a fund available for the time when investment goes away. This due to the boom bust cycle of modern capitalism. If you can't beat them, make them pay up front for the mistakes they will eventually make.

Comrades have we such a policy? A counter cyclical fund? Foolish me. We just hand the bill to the tax payer and print more dollars to keep banks solvent in this country.

Now this only a proposal. We will wait to see if its' part of the regulation package. Which brings us to hedge funds.

What are they waiting for? According to the proclamations from the Central Committee all is green and glowing like a new spring day at dawn.

This rally in the stock market is hindered by their lack of participation. Turn up the volume all the way. Get those trillions moving. Let's have a third quarter recovery. No later then mid September. Go for it. You owe it to us. So do it. Invest, trade, transfer, leverage, put, call, shake, rattle and roll.

How about a nice fat juicy capital gains cut to get you going? Now, we have your attention.

Economic policy for the recovery completed.

As always, reaching out in the hope a tea bag will not be in our future, the party brews for you.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 09:10 AM
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31. The EU hypocrites. They whine about "protectionism" then go do it themselves.
GEE!
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 08:12 AM
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30. 1600 AD
A little behind the times, comrade? The date you see is the year the East Indies Company was granted its' royal charter. In modern terms, it paid to incorporate and was given permission to go forth and plunder.

Were it not for its' political skills and connections, we as a nation may not have had a Boston Tea Party. As history likes to repeat itself, low cost to consumers does not always benefit the consumer trying to compete in the global market place. Cheap tea and untaxed to boot caused such resentment that good citizens took to disguise and broke the law in protest.

Today, the few on the right bellow the call of injustice at the unreasonable expense they claim as their's. We too must put forth our claim.

Goldstein are you asking good citizens to join the right wingers in disloyal acts against our newly elected left of center government? Not unless you desire to miss the boat.

Exploit the cause to gain the result you prefer. The right will loose its' grip on this populist movement when the movement expands as it must. Raw populism makes for good revolution.

Where did we go wrong? It is not a where question, we need to ask ourselves. That time was before out birth and federalism expanded in self defense at the "birth of the nation". We've been headed around the bend ever since. Bouncing right to left looking for a center.

While the incorporated took profits at our expense. We have come full circle. The name of the parties have changed some, the left and right, the Progressive and the Conservative, all adjusted by time and national temperament. Driven by economic maladjustments in search of more profit. Today, the term is growth. In 1600 the term was discovery.

Moralism is not our concern here. Good or evil are wanting as ever and as subjective as ever. Our only concern here is survival of the most despite the intention of the select few.

Will democracy stand? Economic revolution favors the majority willing to take up the cause. What purpose the right wing has in supporting a Tea Party is plain faced. Why the left hasn't unfurled the banner of majority rule remains a misfortune.

This misfortune is lack of leadership.

What makes the party stronger is dissent and discourse, not Sunday morning sound bites.

The party likes to quote Winston Churchill's: fight them on the beaches, fight them on the streets; to good effect. In case you haven't heard, "them" is us.

Good revolution,Comrades.

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 11:05 AM
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32. Goldstein made a video.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 07:05 PM
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33. All we need now are the wanted posters. n/t
:+
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-27-09 10:05 PM
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34. Kermit, the frog.
If we are to perish from this earth, please may it be frog flu. Swine flu is simply not kosher. Who, good citizen, wants a pestilence so wicked that it defies humor? And to what purpose shall this event play misdirection's namesake?

There are open borders from the south as always. That said, we look at probable cause. Within which borders, the population is to confine itself to home base? Which makes it simpler for the death squads to clean up malcontents. The drug dealing crowd will find safe houses scarce. We have heard real estate this side of the border is available. No questions asked on cash deals.

What happens when the bottle neck swells tighter at the border? Given the drought on the left coast and less produce to be picked and even less construction anywhere on this hemisphere, how large an IMF loan awaits is no longer speculation. And who on that board is willing to assist with over the horizon commodity requests? Ms. Chairperson, the envelope please.

Peeking duck (wink-wink) takes first prize.

The Mao All Star's are looking for a very large buy in. The request for the seat at the table confirmed by our very own Minister of Wealth, the G-spot. Rubbed the right way, according to friends on Wall Street, will produce a rapture few could imagine. Bankers do love foreplay.

The notion, given the answers on the pre test, a little soft money goes on forever is in fact the theory of every thing political. As all politics are local, what would be so unambiguous as an expanded All Star's economic mission on former dock of the Love Boat. Porto San something or other.

Comrades, there was a past president of Peru from the land of the rising sun not that long ago. While we do not expect a Mandarin speaker to hold office on Montezuma's court, we do see the fireworks business as a cultural handshake.

Its' all about globalization. Just like swine flu.

Comrades, if Kermit hadn't given it up to Miss Piggy, if the G-spot hadn't given it up for Goldman's socks, if the Peeking Duck ( more winking) hadn't come with that much sauce, we might have stood a chance.

Once again, the party picked one from column A and two from column B. The Mao All Star's are hoarding gold and asking the IMF to sell all their's.

Something just isn't kosher.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 02:43 PM
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35. Twilight cometh.
First, why haven't the major players in this on going rally identified themselves as the supporters of the green shoots movement, so beloved by the folks in the Great White Bunker and their friends in the media? Was it not a mere eight weeks ago that we were assured the banks were to have more funding and credit would be expanding? The rest of TARP, son of TARP, god son of TARP, second cousin of TARP, TARP lite, TARP with a twist, handed out and sign over. Not a poor bank to be found. What a relief! Some a little short on the down side, but nothing to worry about.

Well the money for the banks was put to good use. They dark pooled it and push up stock prices. Some body with no moral compass had to do it. The bankers fit that bill and were glad to help. A version of don't ask and I won't tell.

And in return their friends in the Congress voted against helping beaten down home losers. Truth in lending according to the Congress. The sacredness of the binding contract was at stake. What can a poor Congressman do? Surely, not risk his skin in this game. The leadership from the GWB did what? Arm twist? Back slap? Confer? No. They flew Air force One across Manhattan and didn't tell anybody they were in town. Did K R leave a post-it note on his computer? If B screws up, just fly the One across Wall Street to get their attention. No nukes this time please. thanx K.

Who's side are they on? Sorry, comrades, to direct a question.

Our initial surmise,that the New Kid's on the Block would nationalize the few insolvent banks and return to a boring, regulated, utilitarian banking system was completely wrong. We elected a community organizer and the banking industry installed their version of a harbor master at the same time. Not one and the same person.

Which good citizen's leaves us where? Closer to the next May Day parade? Workers of the world unite? Dam communists just can't trust them! They have all gone corporate. Mao All Star's win big in World Market! News at eleven. Can China lead the world out of recession? Need we say more?

AIPAC's spies go free under cover of, gasp, swine flu. Tell me that's not ironic? Only, five hundred thousand more on the dole at last count. And things are looking up?

We hope you all have a great Mother's day. The party would have sent flowers and a card, but that's where the Commander n Chief got $17 billion in budgetary savings. The Repubs are livid over this attempt to deny Mother's their just due.

As always, the party will twitter you for no reason as water boarding is just as harmless.



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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:43 PM
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36. Blood in the water.
Did she know, what she said she did not know? Did they say what they said while she was present? Is this at all important? Did it matter? Does it matter now?

When seeking cooperation, on matters required by national security, is it best left to the professionals to explain the limits and intentions of covert operations? Or is political compromise effective enough to bend the rational across party lines by sharing the facts on the ground?

The real politic. That which most will never see.

And if this has nothing to do with harsh treatment? What was the agenda at the time that was understood, yet unspoken?

Legal opinion aside. Legality also. What information was shared as to keep the powers that were in fact involved beyond any shadow of doubt free from the powers not yet arrived?

The Good Old Boys were into the second term. There was little left to bring into the light of day by that point. All those who knew, knew.

Which brings us back to what was taken off the table. The grand compromise.

That they shall be free as are we.

So why now? What compromise is so needed now?

Porter Goss for the right wing. Anthony Podesta for the left. What hasn't been politicized?

What hasn't been compromised?

Comrades, when the great red bear collapsed into destitution with nuclear weapons intact what was the explanation?

It couldn't afford it's form of government. Economic depression and that was a complete surprise. It just happened some drunk couldn't run the country. The wars, hot and cold, did them in. Massive corruption. A few that come to mind.

Is this starting to sound familiar?

And what task was given to our very own Office of Strategic Services? Make sure this doesn't happen here. Or failing that, give us a plan on how to take everybody with us.

Mutual Assured Destruction. In economic terms.

So, the shift begins from currency one to currency two. Dependence on insider agreements from long term debt holding to short term debt in anticipation of increasing interest rates. Increasing gold holdings and fixing commodity prices to restock reserves of industrial materials. The Mao All Star's are very busy.

The naval base in Sri Lanka the All Star's are building is no reason for concern. Not as long as they can get Lil' Kim to pop a nuke from time to time. That other rouge nation you need to really worry about.

The party would never destabilize another government for economic reasons. The party is here to serve you. They print the menu. They set the price. It like an election, only better.



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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-01-09 11:21 PM
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37. But why?
But why does the market keep going up? If you come here and read our fellow comrades' point of view, you begin to get the feeling all is lost. There is no hope. Or what hope there is, is very slim to some, but barely enough for all. So why?

Firstly, given the lack of confidence any body will get this mess corrected is not speculation. There is simply to many competing self interests to carry through a comprehensive plan and as of yet, the politics of money takes precedent. Money has purchased power. Power enjoys the perks money affords it.

So who gets bailed out or cut in on the deal makes sense to those with money and power. You, comrade sit there and fume at the injustice. The party is not so interested in equality as it is in equity. That is where the rubber meets the road.

Pensions. Mutual funds. 401k's. All have a problem. How to pay out retiree's benefits with out forcing the market even lower given the recent sell off of 2008. They have reflated the bubble to the extent most obligations can be met.

Good citizens still put money into retirement accounts as do their employers. Add to that the recapitalization of the mega banks and of the investment capitalization pass through by their hedge funds, the market moves upward. Black pools are just so helpful.

The caution here is understood. They need a cushion because the next correction will test new lows. Retracing in search of a bottom that wasn't found in the last drop. Too big to fail came closer then they will admit. Intervention by the FED and Treasury prevented the great unwinding.

That policy remains in tact. It has not changed. The FED's balance sheet of debt holdings, euphemistically called reserves, and monetary intervention is perhaps the explanation why god exists. Pure faith.

As printed on our currency: " In God We Trust".

The comrades who have worked to keep all informed of the direction and disparity of the abusers are not depression-ista's, they are realists. Their message is clear. We have not cleared the mine fields.

Goldstein is not in favor of the economic destruction of wall street, if it takes down main street. The reverse can not be said of the party and their wall street backers.

The party, the reason why is not an option. To ask why denotes curiosity. Curiosity leads to questioning authority. Questioning authority provokes calculated response. All forms of political response seek to instill loyalty. Good citizens do not question loyalty.







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