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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:37 PM
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WTC being rebuilt with Chinese glass
Glassmaking Thrives Offshore, but Is Declining in U.S.

The majestic steel beams of a soaring office tower beginning to rise from the ruins of the World Trade Center are a tribute to American resilience, but also a marker in the decline of yet another industry. Not an inch of imported glass went into the two lost towers, built 40 years ago. The lower floors of the new one will soon be sheathed in Chinese glass.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/business/19glass.html?em





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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:39 PM
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1. Words fail me---this is awful.
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:40 PM
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2. we need a return to tariffs. nt
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 06:57 PM
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21. Yes, we absolutely do.
1. To adjust for currency shenanigans, and not just China's

2. To adjust for workplace and worker safety regulations

3. To adjust for environmental standards

4. To adjust for adjust for lack of anti-discrimination laws

5. To pay for safety inspections--like testing dog food for impurities

6. To adjust for social benefits like medicare, SS, medicaid, unemployment compensation, welfare

7. To make sure people can live on what they get paid
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:40 PM
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3. Can we just call it the Chinese Trade Center. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:41 PM
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4. Will we soon change the name of this country?
West China
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:41 PM
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5. Has it been tested rigorously for strength?
This is a damn shame.

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jdp349 Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 12:00 AM
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18. The insurance company said don't bother
they're just gonna wing it on this one...
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:41 PM
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6. Won't have to retrofit it later.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:42 PM
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7. Not to put too fine a point on this, but it was called the World Trade Center
As in trade with the world.

Unless China had something to do with bringing down the towers, I see no reason why Chinese glass should not be used in this building.


Now, if it was called the American Trade Center, I would have a problem.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:45 PM
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9. Stop being so practical...
How else can we enjoy are xenophobic outbursts
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tinymontgomery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:42 PM
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8. This really sucks
It is unbelievable that we can't provide the glass. Truly unbelievable. And it is not even a matter of what is being built, it just sucks
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 08:47 PM
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10. Will it end up making everyone sick
like the Chinese drywall?
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:01 PM
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15. Leaded glass, not safety glass?
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 10:04 PM by blue97keet
Or maybe cadmium glass? Or sulphur glass? Or melamine glass?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:02 PM
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11.  simple solution to this problem....the unions refuse to handle the glass

it worked when the saturn plant was being built.the union guys refused to handle Canadian steel beams so saturn bought

h/i beams from the rolling mill i worked at. northwestern steel and wire`s 24" rolling mill received the order for the and we rolled american steel for an american plant.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:03 PM
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12. obama's endless wars must be financed with loans from.....ta da....china nt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:23 PM
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13. while we are giving our blood and money to...
protect the natural gas pipelines that provides the energy to make the glass!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:12 PM
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17. Very ironic indeed
China sits back and watches the wars. Meanwhile, they're profiting from the unrest and turmoil.

THIS is the reason they've lasted a thousand years.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 09:30 PM
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14. 'I see no reason why Chinese glass should not be used in this building.
Unemployment here the highest in 50 years. Chinese steel is also being used in California road building projects.

Why would we want to put Americans back to work? China's growth and well-being is more important.

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is a xenophobe.


:silly:
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wuvuj Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 05:38 AM
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19. The MSM says this is true....
We should be happy that the poor Chinese workers have jobs...you see it all works out in the end. Your end...you've been screwed.

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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 10:11 PM
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16. What about the drywall? Chinese too? (nt)
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 11:25 AM
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20. only some of the windows
will have chinese glass

The majority will still be american glass. It looks like no american manufactures competed for the contract to make the glass for the lower floors
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 06:58 PM
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22. I will not go into that building.
How can glass become unsafe? It will happen sooner or later. The stuff will crumble.
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