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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:51 PM
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What the so called "Job Fairs" really are in my town
McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut and all the local career schools that want you to sign your life and what little cash you have over to them.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:54 PM
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1. A friend of mine went to one of those Monster.com job fairs.....
..... He said a third of the "recruiters" were diploma mill schools.



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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:00 PM
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3. They're the ones that place 50% of the ads in the classifieds too
Every day you see about 30 - 40 ads for "medical assistants". The same ads have been running for over two years.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-11-10 11:35 AM
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18. More proof that the right wing greedmongers have killed the job market
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:57 PM
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2. " Must enjoy and thrive in a Fast-Paced environment" Which really means...
"Enjoy running around like an insane chicken with it's head cut off and acting like the steel ball in an old Pinball machine"
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:13 PM
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4. When my husband was unemployed he attended a
technical job fair in San Jose that attracted hundreds of H1B Visa holders. They literally arrived by the busload. US citizens should not have to compete for American jobs with foreign workers who will work cheap. It's criminal that in this economy American companies are allowed to hire them.
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SydneyDundee Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:35 PM
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5. ..would you have an issue with other countries doing same with US workers who move abroad?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 07:18 PM
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8. Yes. Why should an American take a job away from
a qualified native of another country? Every country ought to protect it's citizens' jobs.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:10 PM
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9. The best way to protect American and foreign jobs is to nullify NAFTA, WTO, CAFTA
and ALL trade agreements. We should also change the tax laws that grant tax breaks to domestically based corporations that move factories overseas. And end the tax laws that permit domestically based companies from moving overseas to avoid US taxes. Sadly, none of this is going to happen.
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SydneyDundee Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:29 PM
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11. ...to my point exactly below...when one focuses on only one aspect of Labour and .
..then try to regulate, one then realises the impact it has in all other socio-economic connected policies. you mention just a few that would be impacted or impacting. Where would one stop?....pull up the shutters and not allow any labour, good or services to cross US Borders? I think not....as it would be the death of the country.....
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:33 AM
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16. And ban all trade agreements that encourage "immigration" as a means
to grease the skids for still more offshoring.
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SydneyDundee Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:22 PM
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10. ...this happens all over the world now...so think it's a pretty difficult principle to either apply
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or even to attempt to sponsor or get agreement by government.......don't you think?...there are many, many americans doing jobs abroad...I employ 3 of them here in Australia...that's they way the global labour market works am afraid....

So any politician that wanted to make any strong call for US jobs for US folks only, would need to not forget the reciprocal arrangement for US citizens abroad - and they vote too - and it would stifle their freedom to exercise and take their labour to wherever they legitimately wish.....thoughts?
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 05:48 PM
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6. A friend just came back from a job fair...
...it was held at a local university. It was supposed to be for special ED teachers. He told me there were NO EMPLOYERS who showed up. There were a bunch of people with their teaching degrees and special ED certificates but ZERO employers at the job fair.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:09 PM
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7. So don't take the job
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:37 AM
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13. I saw a hearing on C-span about rip-off schools using hi-pressure
sales tactics to get students to sign the dotted line so the schools get the Federal grant money up front whether the students graduate or not. This is a rip-off of the taxpayer too.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:02 AM
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14. The rip-off schools have a better line than me and the community college
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 11:04 AM by Crazy Dave
I know so many people going back to school and some taking my trade, computer drafting. All of the career schools (non-accredited diploma mills) cost too much and teach too little where we have an excellent and affordable community college that has to cancel classes due to lack of enough students enrolled.

I've told many people over and over, go to the community college but 9 out of 10 sign up at the trade schools then can't get a job anywhere when they graduate due to every manager's experience with trade school graduates.

I've worked with and hired many CAD techs from the local community college program and their skills and knowledge are very impressive and the same instructor has been teaching the program for over 10 years. They usually get hired.

Same thing with medical assistants and other medical support careers. The ones who graduate from the community college already have a job when they do. The career school graduates are all begging for any type of work on craigslist.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:31 PM
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15. Kick. nt
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:29 AM
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17. In the late 80's I worked for the Dept. of Education
investigating these types of schools. Massive fraud. We were able to shut down and even prosecute a number of them, and were near to getting the problem under control when I left there in 91, but apparently it has leapt out of control again.
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