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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:18 PM
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Looking forward to that pension, were ya?
France joins other countries who have taken people's pension money to pay the banksters.

The USA will be facing this also.

France seizes €36bn of pension assets

Asset managers will have the chance to get billions of euros in mandates in the next few months for the €36bn Fonds de Réserve pour les Retraites (FRR), the French reserve pension fund, after the French parliament last week passed a law to use its assets to pay off the debts of France’s welfare system.

NOTE
The move reflects a willingness by governments to use long-term assets to fill short-term deficits,
including:
Ireland’s announcement last week that it would use the country’s €24bn National Pensions Reserve Fund “to support the exchequer’s funding programme”
and
Hungary’s bid to claw $15bn of private pension funds back to the state system.

http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2010-11-29/france-seizes-euro-36bn-of-pension-assets
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:25 PM
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1. Bankster royalty beats their masses back down to serfdom. nt
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:28 PM
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2. Thanks dixiegrrrrl
:kick: & R
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:30 PM
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3. I have a solution!
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:50 PM
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4. Very nice, organic, energy saving solution, too!
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:58 PM
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5. That may actually happen in Europe... (n/t)
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 08:03 PM
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7. "Off with their heads!!"
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:06 AM
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8. Whatever works...
I think it's exactly what America needs. The most sensible suggestion about what we should do with our bankers that I've seen since the theft started.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 06:12 AM
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9. Don't use the S-word!
That goddamned woodchuck infestation has finally abated for the winter.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 07:24 PM
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6. Isn't this the reason Hoffa was never found? n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:17 PM
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10. Bankers are in cahoots with goverments across the world
How it got this way, I'm not really sure but I think a lot of it has to do with deregulation, just like in the US, and a lot of corruption.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:41 PM
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11. Will the French citizens stand for this?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-10 09:57 PM
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12. Dilemma: Withdraw our pensions and take a hit?
I think my union only lets us borrow. I'd cash it in and take a tax hit if I could. 85% is better than zip.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 03:01 PM
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13. There are loopholes you can use.
depends on what kind of pension/retirement you have, how old you are,and what you are taking it out for.

but, yes, overall, 85% in the hand is worth a whole more than zip, and zip it will be when the economy crashes.
If you take some of it out this year, and some in Jan, you can split the tax bill.
think of the taxes and penalties as being the employer's part of the money you got for free.

right now the market is still ( artificially ) ok, so depending on what your pension is invested in......



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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-10 08:51 PM
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14. Sounds like the social security "trust fund"
At least they are honest enough to call it like it is. We lie to ourselves that we actually have something saved.
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