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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:41 PM
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So ... "entitlements" are the "Democrat Party's sacred cow" ... should we start to refer to
the "Republican Party's sacred cow" with the term "milititlements"?
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:44 PM
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1. It seems to me that the tax cuts are the Rethugs "sacred cow".
Not sure what to call them, though.
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:50 PM
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3. "Selling America"
Since taxes are investments. Republicans can wave flags and pray all they want, but until they work for the community around them in all areas of life they are just self-centered, heartless assholes. They don't want to invest in anyone, because then someone might be better off. That's competition with their family or "friends."


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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:53 PM
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5. How about "coddling the wealthy?"
Or "wet-nursing the rich," or "Cadillac welfare..."

We need to be as good at labels as the a$$holes on the right are!

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:47 PM
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2. Refer to Republicans as the the Power Grabbers for the Rich
and Big Business. or the Worshipers at the Shrine
of Big Business and Rich.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 12:50 PM
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4. I think it would be better to rename "entitlements".
The way the Republicans use it, it sounds like a handout. Kind of like the way they made "liberal" sound like a dirty word. So we had to start using "progressive" instead.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:16 PM
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7. Social Security and Medicare are "Earned Benefits". Use those words.
To remove them or cut them is "stealing" their pay from the workers.
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orangeapple Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 02:23 PM
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8. it's not stealing
if you have no "accrued property rights."

If congress seized your savings account or 401(k) that would be 'stealing'.

Social Security and Medicare are welfare programs, and the government can and does change the rules when it wants to in deciding how much welfare you're going to get.

see: FLEMMING V. NESTOR

"A PERSON COVERED BY THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT HAS NOT SUCH A RIGHT IN OLD-AGE BENEFIT PAYMENTS AS WOULD MAKE EVERY DEFEASANCE OF "ACCRUED" INTERESTS VIOLATIVE OF THE DUE PROCESS CLAUSE OF THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. PP. 608-611.

(A) THE NONCONTRACTUAL INTEREST OF AN EMPLOYEE COVERED BY THE ACT CANNOT BE SOUNDLY ANALOGIZED TO THAT OF THE HOLDER OF AN ANNUITY, WHOSE RIGHTS TO BENEFITS ARE BASED ON HIS CONTRACTUAL PREMIUM PAYMENTS. PP. 608-610.

(B) TO ENGRAFT UPON THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM A CONCEPT OF "ACCRUED PROPERTY RIGHTS" WOULD DEPRIVE IT OF THE FLEXIBILITY AND BOLDNESS IN ADJUSTMENT TO EVER-CHANGING CONDITIONS WHICH IT DEMANDS AND WHICH CONGRESS PROBABLY HAD IN MIND WHEN IT EXPRESSLY RESERVED THE RIGHT TO ALTER, AMEND OR REPEAL ANY PROVISION OF THE ACT."




What you want sounds more like individual retirement accounts...
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:05 PM
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9. Not always true
If you immigrate to US after retirement age, you can collect supplemental
social security checks until you expire. And those folks typically have
contributed nothing into the system. Therefore there is no way to label
those checks as "earned benefits".
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 01:08 PM
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6. I thought the GOP's sacred cow was Wall Street.
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