Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Nightmare scenario: U.S. deflation risks rising

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU
 
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 04:35 PM
Original message
Nightmare scenario: U.S. deflation risks rising
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Risks are rising that a moribund job market and potentially steep drop in inflation could push the United States into a downward spiral of falling wages and prices.

That nightmare scenario of deflation might seem remote considering a recent rebound in growth, and the Federal Reserve would almost certainly try to head it off, probably well before prices started to fall. But some investors and economists say the risk is real.


Inflation is expected to more than halve over the next year as a spike in prices for goods like oil and grains unwinds. Unemployment, meanwhile, will likely hold at nearly double its pre-recession level well into next year, keeping incomes under pressure.

If forecasts are correct, that could present a dangerous combination the Fed might not allow to brew for very long.

cont'd

http://news.yahoo.com/nightmare-scenario-u-deflation-risks-rising-201946557.html

Refresh | +7 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. "The key...to ensure that a deflationary psychology does not take hold"
"If consumers and businesses put off purchases because they could be cheaper down the road, that could undercut the economy and push prices down further."


The vultures smell blood and are just patiently waiting...
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
OnlinePoker Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Would you buy a housing in a falling market?
Probably not. Does that make you a vulture or just prudent?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 05:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. A prudent vulture?
Edited on Sat Oct-29-11 05:12 PM by Dover
:shrug:


I'm thinking mainly of Wall St. and the big corporations who have essentially destroyed the economy and middle class who are now positioning themselves to take full advantage of the spoils of cheap labor and property.
That's just the way it is.

The bottom line is that the gov. is going to have a heck of a time
convincing people to spend when all the signs point to a decline of long duration. It's natural to
hunker down and wait. 'Ironically this apparently just makes it worse, becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
OllieLotte Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:23 AM
Response to Original message
4. Yeah, I'd hate to be paying less for food and gas.
That would be a nightmare.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
angryfirelord Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Except wages go down too
Well, at least they attempt to in a deflationary situation, but since we know that wages are sticky, all that does is create more unemployment. It doesn't go you any good to pay less for gas when you don't have a job.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/02/why-is-deflation-bad/
http://web.mit.edu/krugman/www/spiral.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:23 PM
Response to Original message
6. Inflation = disappearing pensions and annuities
Deflation = disappearing businesses and jobs. Of the two, deflation is far scarier, IMO.

Inflation was managed for retirees for many years with realistic COLA adjustments. I don't think there's anything that will compensate for deflation beyond letting it happen and then swooping in with a massive national jobs program to jump start the economy from the bottom up.

That will have to be paid for by taxing the last 30 years of ill gotten gains away from the Robber Barons.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Dec 21st 2024, 10:13 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC