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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:40 PM Original message |
Anyone see the ad for the Pickens Plan? |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Beautiful. |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. He's heavily invested in natural gas and wants to use lots of it. What's to think about? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. The OP is talking about wind power |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. for T Boone it is a Win -Win, |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. So what, |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Any underwriter of the swift boaters |
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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Wow. |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. How about a link to Pickens being in that group. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Lots of 'em. |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Obviously you don't live on Long Island |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. So you think we can find 500 km2 every week |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. The link |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
52. He also gave the 527 $3M and reneged on the bet |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. Yes we can "find the space" |
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JohnWxy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #39 |
59. I just wish T. Boone would call up Bill Gates and let him know there are Global Warming and energy |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Deleted message |
Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Wind power is very variable |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. So should we |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
35. No, just don't ask too much of it |
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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yes, I did mention wind power, but |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. As we speak |
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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Then you've heard of the TTC |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Pickens on CNBC |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Natural gas is one of the components of his plan |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Natural gas would provide backup power |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. He'd be happy as long as he could make his bundle |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think it's a good plan. n/t |
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Submariner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. After profiting to the MAX from Bush/Cheney oil policies |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. I wish he would also call for rebuilding our light rail infrastructure |
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SharonRB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
6. I give him a lot of credit |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yeah saw it. Pickens is an interesting character... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. Pretty vague. |
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Finishline42 (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Why are you ignoring the Solar part of his plan? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Because it's not part of it. |
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Finishline42 (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. No Pickens is not funding solar - but it is part of the picture he draws |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. We know that../. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. "I want it to be nonpartisan...I'm always going to vote Republican, of course." |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. He would be right about nukes... He was reffering to |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. For what? A backyard solar cooker? |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
15. Actually, K&R this folks... |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. We would be better off using the natural gas for home heating |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Do you understand that nat. gas |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Not to mention |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I'm not disagreeing, |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 05:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Peak natural gas anyone?? |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Yes. That is the other part that makes no sense to me |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. In the last year natgas production is up 9% |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Here's why... |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 07:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. What is to 'get over'. The natural gas part of his plan makes no sense |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #20 |
56. that could be true.. but who is offering up a serious plan that |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Lester Brown at the Earth Policy Institute for one |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. No, it isn't just you. |
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Fledermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. We could accomplish the same thing by reducing our consumption |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-13-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. For Americans that may come harder |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
38. It's funny that people here seem upset that he'd make a profit off of cleaner energy production |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Natural gas makes plenty of C02 emissions |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes it does, but it's less than virtually all other fossil fuels |
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Finishline42 (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:16 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Funny thing is - he can make a bundle but he can still sell his electricity for less |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. IT's $2000/mo here in KS..... but |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Only if you disregard the initial investment in the land. nt |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
50. It's a better plan than anything Obama or McCain have put up |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
51. Why is he attempting to drum up public support? |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. He needs clear leadership from Washington.... |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm just trying to figure out what he's after, in the sense of support... |
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ElectricGrid (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. See my link in my post just above your first post in this series... |
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Finishline42 (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Power lines crossing different fiefdoms... |
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Not Sure (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-14-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. That's about the size of it |
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