Another reason not to rely on hydrocarbons:

[Shyriath]

"World oil and gas 'running out'"

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/10/02/global.warming/index.html

'LONDON, England -- Global warming will never bring a "doomsday scenario" a team of scientists says -- because oil and gas are running out much faster than thought.

The world's oil reserves are up to 80 percent less than predicted, a team from Sweden's University of Uppsala says. Production levels will peak in about 10 years' time, they say.

"Non-fossil fuels must come in much stronger than it had been hoped," Professor Kjell Alekett told CNN.'

Ah... *emotional sniff* I am proud, sometimes, to carry Swedish blood in my veins.

*Ahem* At any rate: also according to the article, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is still backing its own figures, although the Uppsala team believes not only that the estimates are inflated, but that some Middle Eastern countries are exaggerating the size of their supplies.

The scientists also believe that both oil and gas production will start falling off after 2010.

[uberotto]

1. Another reason I'm glad I traded in my Camaro for ...

a new Honda Civic Hybrid. 50 miles to the gallon and Ultra Low Emissions.

Plus it saves me about $600 a year in fuel costs.

Wanted to get a new Prius, but got tired of waiting, now I'm glad that I didn't. I love my new Civic Hybrid.

[el_gato]

2. well they are finally acknowledging peak oil

even if they are using it to dispel concerns about global warming

[Ediacara]

3. using hydrocarbons as a fuel source is dumb

do these people not want plastics in 50 years? Hell, even if you use hydrocarbons for fuel, burning them is the least efficent way to do that.... Oil companies, despite the party line, are coming around to the fact that they need to change if they wish to be financially viable past 2040.

[cprise]

4. Not hydrocarbons-- fossil fuel

Biomass is hydrocarbon fuel, but it is renewable. The biodiesel made from veg. oil that I use in my car is a hydrocarbon fuel. The carbon put into the atmosphere was taken out of the air by plants just months before.

IMO, hydrocarbon fuel is fantastic if it's renewable. People keep focusing on what substance to diss as 'bad', but the fuel's process is just as important.


This report is BS anyway. See this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=143267

[Shyriath]

5. Whoop.

*Stands corrected on all counts*