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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 02:55 PM
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Yep. No politics in the GW industry
All the believers have only the purest of intentions. Pure science and altruism rule the day at COP15. They'd never be influenced by politics or money. They'll probably draft another missive about how YOU should give up coffee to reduce CO2 (as they fly home on their private jet drinking champagne).




The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.

The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.

The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.

The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.

"It is being done in secret. Clearly the intention is to get Obama and the leaders of other rich countries to muscle it through when they arrive next week. It effectively is the end of the UN process," said one diplomat, who asked to remain nameless.

Hill continued: "It proposes a green fund to be run by a board but the big risk is that it will run by the World Bank and the Global Environment Facility and not the UN. That would be a step backwards, and it tries to put constraints on developing countries when none were negotiated in earlier UN climate talks."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/08/copenhagen-climate-summit-disarray-danish-text
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:28 PM
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1. the irony..destroying the earth to make worthless money.
When there is no air, no water, even the richest man will die.
Don't they get that?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 03:40 PM
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2. They're develpoping policy. That's inherently political.
What part of that don't you understand? FSM, you're a dumbass :roll:
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:14 PM
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3. Between the hacked emails and this leak...
It's almost as though someone wants the conference to fail...

Hmmm.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:36 PM
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5. .
(more like some people need it to fail)
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 05:39 PM
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6. How odd. I haven't seen reports...
that anyone sailed or bicycled to this conference...

Guess some pigs is more equal than other pigs. Whudathunkit.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 06:11 PM
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7. there there
:loveya: :hug:
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-08-09 04:23 PM
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4. That's just a proposal
If the LDCs and smaller nations stand firm I think the big industrial nations will have to go along.
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