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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 04:54 PM
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Caribbean at risk of more large earthquakes
15 January 2010 by Kate Ravilious

Earthquake experts are warning that the devastating quake that struck Haiti on Tuesday could be the first of several in the region. They say historical records suggest that not all the energy that has built up in the faults running through the Caribbean region was released in this week's tragedy.

Their fear is that enough energy remains in the fault system to trigger another earthquake of the same scale as Tuesday's.

The last time Haiti was struck by earthquakes of this scale was in 1751 and 1770, when three large earthquakes hit within the space of 20 years. They ruptured the same fault segment as the one that slipped on Tuesday, as well as segments lying further to the east, in Haiti and the neighbouring Dominican Republic.

"Last time round there was a sequence of earthquakes," says Uri ten Brink, an expert on earthquakes in the region from the US Geological Survey in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. "I'm worried, as we might expect the eastern side of the fault to rupture next." Other geologists concur. "Stress transfer along the fault is likely to trigger a chain of quakes," says Bill McGuire from University College London.

more:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18398-caribbean-at-risk-of-more-large-earthquakes.html
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 04:56 PM
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1. A tsunami like Indonesia's is only created with offshore quakes, right?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:47 PM
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 09:51 PM
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5. While the Reese report (And the related BBC report) are considered extreme situations
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 09:51 PM by happyslug
Careful reading of the reports REBUTTING the Reese report do confirm the fact such landslides could (and have) cause Tsunamis, the only issue being how common such Tsunamis are (The Reese Report and the BBC indicated once every couple hundred years, other reports indicate maybe once in a million years). Thus the dispute is more on the frequency of such landslide caused Tsunamis then if such Tsunami have or will occur. Thus the Reese report is good enough to answer the question was responding to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumbre_Vieja

http://www.drgeorgepc.com/TsunamiMegaThreatEval.html
http://www.drgeorgepc.com/index.html

Report that such events occur but rare (and goes into how rare):
http://www.drgeorgepc.com/TsunamiMegaEvaluation.html
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-15-10 09:24 PM
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2. I was wondering about the region too...
It isn't a very common area for Quakes... then again, I live in the west near the Ring of Fire, so it is common to *me*
Onbe of the first things I thought of when it happened was "uh-oh" that's not in a good place...! It is one thing to see the fluxuations between the eastern & western pacific's movements...but the eastern seaboard and carribean are places where the earth "shouldn't" move. This also makes me think about a recent post here regarding the discovery of the magnetic pole moving at a very fast rate of speed, like 40 meters per year?

I am going to look for maps of the region's faults...because I have a sneaking suspicion this could also trigger something in the eastern US..isn't that called the New Madrid fault ...?


I think the Earth is waking up from a loong sleep, and she's pissed!

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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 10:31 PM
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6. The New Madrid is a mid-Continent "fault" not a true fault.
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 10:48 PM by happyslug
The difference is what causes the "Fault". Most faults, such as the many around the "Ring of Fire", occur on the edges o continents and ocean basins. Thus the "Ring of Fire" is the land masses of Asia, American, Antarctica, and Indonesia come into contact with the Pacific Ocean and are slowing making that Ocean smaller. The Africa Rift valley is a similar fault but between the Africa Continent and a new split from what is now Saudi Arabia (The Dead Sea is part of this Fault, as is the upper reaches of the Nile). There is a similar conflict between the African Continent and the European Continent (Leading to the alps, as Africa pushes under Europe as Africa heads north).

The Caribbean Islands are similar, caused by the Southern American Land Mass pushing against the North American Land Mass. This produces a fault, but since both Land Masses are heading Westward more then to each other is is small compared to the "Ring of Fire".

Ne Madrid is different, it is in the middle of a Continent not on the edge of the Continent. How they form, why they form AND what triggers them are not as while understood as when two land masses come into conflict. New Madrid is NOT a "Hot Spot" such as Hawaii or Yellowstone ("Hot Spots" are relatively fixed and the land masses float over them, thus island, like Hawaii build up as the Ocean goes over the spot, but as that spot moves away from the Hot Spot, buildup ends and the island starts to decline (and a new island developers where the land mass has moved over the hot spot). Thus the Hawaii Islands each started as a island build up by the Hot Spot, then slowly grew smaller as that island cease to be over the hot spot and a new island gets built up. Right now the Big Island of Hawaii is over the "Hot Spot" but there are indications that the Pacific Ocean has moved enough for another part of the Pacific is over the "Hot Spot" and will slowly start to build up a new Island as volcanic activity on the Big Island declines (The decline has not yet been detected to the best of my knowledge and the "new island" is just a small variation of the Lava going to the Main Island, but the start of the Change has began). Yellowstone is another "Hot Spot" and the North American Continent movement over that "Hot Spot" has been traced almost all the way back to where California first went over that "Hot Spot". I point out these two "Hot Spots" to show that New Madrid is something different. While New Madrid is different it also does not seem to be in contact (i.e. affect or be affected by) with the Faults of the Caribbean

New Madrid Fault:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Madrid_Seismic_Zone#2009_Research_indicating_the_fault_may_be_shutting_down

http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=3964

On the Caribbean fault:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18398-caribbean-at-risk-of-more-large-earthquakes.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=environment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Plate

Map of the Plates and faults in the Caribbean:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribbean_Plate

The two biggest tectonic plats are the North American and South American Plates, but between them you have the North Andes (Columbia North of the Andes Mountains), Panama (Mostly the isthmus itself and Costa Rica), the Caribbean Plate, Central America excluding most of Guatemala, Panama and Costa Rica and most of the Islands of the Caribbean excluding Cuba (Cuba is in the North American Plate and the the fault separating the two plates is between Haiti and Cuba).

to see a map of the World Plates and a detail report on the Caribbean Plate go to:
quake.usgs.gov/~waltermooney/Caribbean2.ppt
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 11:49 PM
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7. Map of world wide Tectonic Plates
Edited on Sun Jan-17-10 11:50 PM by happyslug

http://geology.com/plate-tectonics.shtml

This is the same map used at quake.usgs.gov/~waltermooney/Caribbean2.ppt .
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