In Korea, Rain Nearly Every Day For A Month - After Record Snowfall, Blazing Midsummer

[hatrack]

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Weeks of downpours, sizzling summer heat and record snowfall last winter are all associated with the phenomenon and it is the warmer than usual Pacific Ocean that could be responsible. The whole country has been soaked with heavy rain for nearly a month and as related damage is reported every day, umbrellas have become a “must-have item.”

“The rain we are experiencing now is obviously not typical,” said Kim Seung-bae, a spokesman for the Korea Meteorological Administration (KMA), Sunday. Kim admitted that the downpours have become more unpredictable, becoming like tropical squalls that hit smaller areas suddenly. The rain is finally expected to let up this week. “Sunny weather should dominate throughout the week. But I’m not 100 percent sure,” Kim said, explaining the too-capricious-to-forecast climate.

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On top of unusual weather, the southern part of the country is becoming a habitat for plants and species that are generally seen in countries with tropical climates. Climate experts warned these changes are poised to challenge the country’s ecosystem, making the environment more friendly to such species. A Bulwer’s Petrel, a bird species whose habitat is in tropical and African countries, was spotted on Jeju Island last month. Catching tropical fish in waters off Jeju and southern coastal areas has also come as no surprise, they said.

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ttp://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/09/113_72958.html

[kristopher]

1. "On top of unusual weather"

IMO inundating the board with posts about weather does a dis-service to the efforts to educate the public on CLIMATE. IT is no different than the asshats pointing to a rough winter as a basis for denying climate change.

[izquierdista]

2. They ARE connected

The weather in Pakistan this summer, the weather in Korea, the weather here in Georgia, where we got a snow in February (first time in 10 years), all these observations aggregate together to give a snapshot of how the climate is changing. What you are seeing are weather stories that are predicted from the climate change models, not weather stories that contradict the model predictions.

[kristopher]

4. weather does not equal climate.

Claiming that it does is an absurd proposition when THEY do it and it is an absurd proposition when WE do it. It dramatically decreases credibility.

[izquierdista]

5. And a pixel is not a picture

If you think what I said was absurd, you need to do some remedial work on statistics and sampling. What I was pointing out is that the weather observations being made were deviations in the direction you would expect for the type of climate change that is being hypothesized. Each weather observation pixel is another data point in the whole picture of climate change.

[kristopher]

6. I understand your argument perfectly - it is wrong.

And you can't spin it to make it correct. All that is being communicated is that weather equals climate, which gives perfect cover for denialists who do the same thing over and over and over.

The alternative is to post information from studies that have created, to use your analogy, a picture from the pixels.

[izquierdista]

7. I'll do even better

I'll post a place where you can go for help: http://www.mathfoundation.com/

[kristopher]

8. What is that supposed to mean?

A single data point has little to no significance. For every one you point to that you think supports climate change, the denialists can find just as good an example to offset it. Since WEATHER is NOT climate and you cannot make it climate except by an aggregation of the data it plays into their hands by re-enforcing the legitimacy of their tactics.

Try learning something about human nature and communications.

[Dead_Parrot]

9. LOL

A single data point has little to no significance.

Yet your first reply is to complain about having too many of them.

Make your mind up...

[kristopher]

10. How many days of the year is the perceived weather normal for any given location...

Your argument is a total fail.

[Dead_Parrot]

11. A decreasing number

That's rather the whole point. One that you're not going to get by sticking your your head in the sand, and complaining about other people discussing it.

[GliderGuider]

3. Unusual weather is an expected result of climate change.

Because of that, a flood :evilgrin: of stories about unusual weather events is a very good technique to activate the limbic herding instinct of the public and start them stampeding towards the Climate Change Corral.

Far from being a dis-service, such stories are an essential part of the education process.