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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:23 AM
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An error is seen on a computer screen of Bushehr nuclear power plant
"Your software license has expired"
Heh, maybe Microsoft sent the Stuxnet worm.
http://www.upi.com/enl-win/b00bf188f7671cf2f939d18b1453852f/

Iran's Bushehr nuclear power plant in Bushehr Port



An error is seen on a computer screen of Bushehr nuclear power plant's map in the Bushehr Port on the Persian Gulf, 1,000 kms south of Tehran, Iran on February 25, 2009. Iranian officials said the long-awaited power plant was expected to become operational last fall but its construction was plagued by several setbacks, including difficulties in procuring its remaining equipment and the necessary uranium fuel. (UPI Photo/Mohammad Kheirkhah)


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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 04:39 AM
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1. Maybe if they let Bill Gates privatize their madrassa's...............
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 09:06 AM
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4. Is George Lucas Edutopia one of those?
They do promotional spots on NPR.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 05:24 AM
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2. Aliens?
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:24 AM
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3. That's not a virus. That's pirated software.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 12:13 AM
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5. Some would say that Windows is a virus.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:03 AM
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6. WinCC is industrial operations control software.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 10:11 AM
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8. "SIMATIC WinCC is strictly based on Microsoft technology"
Edited on Thu Sep-30-10 10:25 AM by bananas
From the WinCC brochure at siemens.com (pdf): http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/en/brochure_simatic-wincc_en.pdf
SIMATIC WinCC is strictly based on Microsoft technology,
which provides for the greatest possible compatibility and integration
ability.

Microsoft Windows –
no compromises when it comes to the operating system

WinCC was the first process visualization system on the market
with 32-bit software technology under Microsoft Windows
95/NT 4.0. Today, Windows XP Professional, Windows 2003
Server and Windows Vista represent an open standard platform
for WinCC servers and clients or single-user systems. With
WinCC, you can follow innovations in the operating system
without any problems, which means you have the greatest
possible investment protection.


From the Microsoft website:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/compatibility/windows-vista/Search.aspx?type=Software&s=wincc

Windows Vista Compatibility Center
Compatibility status

Siemens WinCC version 7 Compatible

Siemens WinCC version 6 Action Recommended Get paid upgrade



Wikipedia also has an entry for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WinCC

SIMATIC WinCC is a supervisory control and data acquisition (SCADA) and human-machine interface (HMI) system from Siemens. It can be used in combination with Siemens PCS 7 and Teleperm control systems. WinCC is written for Microsoft Windows operating system.

References

1. ^ "SCADA System SIMATIC WinCC - Operator control and monitoring systems - Siemens:". Siemens. http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/human-machine-interface/en/visualization-software/scada/Pages/Default.aspx. Retrieved 2010-09-18.
2. ^ "HMI software: One-stop visualization software - Operator control and monitoring systems - Siemens:". Siemens. http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/human-machine-interface/en/visualization-software/Pages/Default.aspx. Retrieved 2010-09-18.
3. ^ "SIMATIC WinCC Process visualization with Plant Intelligence" (PDF). Siemens. http://www.automation.siemens.com/salesmaterial-as/brochure/en/brochure_simatic-wincc_en.pdf. Retrieved 2010-09-18.
4. ^ Gregg Keizer (16 September 2010). "Is Stuxnet the 'best' malware ever?". Infoworld. http://www.infoworld.com/print/137598. Retrieved 2010-09-18.

External links

* Siemens' WinCC product page


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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 09:05 AM
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12. I think you missed the point entirely.
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DrGregory Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:50 AM
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7. FRAUD!!!
Edited on Wed Sep-29-10 07:56 AM by DrGregory
Read the labels on some of those systems:

"Sulfuric Acid Storage and Feeding"

"Lime Milk Preparation and Dousing"

That's not what the controls for a reactor
system looks like. Those are the controls
for some industrial chemical plant.

Those labels are NOT the labels one would
see on the controls of a nuclear reactor.

Additionally, why are the labels in English?

This plant is meant to be operated by operators
whose native tongue is Farsi.

The Bushehr plant is of Russian design and manufacture.

One would expect the labels to be either in Russian,
because it was designed in Russia; or Farsi because
the end users are people who speak Farsi.

But ENGLISH???

Dr. Greg

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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:17 PM
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9. Maybe its a condensate polisher in a Nuclear Plant?
While I don't use lime slurry or Lime Milk, I do use Sodium Hydroxide and Sulfuric Acid to wash my Cation/Anion Beds. I suspect lime might work ok in some exchangers.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 12:54 PM
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10. The water treatment system "is one of the major components of a nuclear power plant"
Anyone who actually worked in the nuclear industry would be aware of this.

The water treatment system "is one of the major components of a nuclear power plant":
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/iran/2006/iran-060624-irna01.htm

Water treatment system of Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant to be set up

IRNA - Islamic Republic News Agency

Moscow, June 24, IRNA
Iran-Russia-Power Plant
In-Depth Coverage

The Russian Atom Stroi Export Company, which is currently implementing Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, declared here Saturday that Russian experts are working on the power plant's (chemical) water treatment system.

The report released by Atom Stroi Export Co. on Saturday said that the system is one of the major components of a nuclear power plant, adding that according to the relevant timetable, its installation is predicted to be completed by August 31.

<snip>


It's in English because the plant was originally built by Siemens:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/bushehr-reactor.htm

Bushehr - Reactors

The reactor units at Bushehr were initially built by a German company, Siemens, and were built to a plan closely resembling that of the Biblis A unit in Germany. The Bushehr I reactor was 85 percent complete and the Bushehr II reactor was partially complete prior to the 1979 Iranian Revolution, after which construction of both reactors halted. Ayatollah Khomeini declared the project "anti-Islamic," and the government of Mehdi Bazargan soon abandoned it.

<snip>

The German designs called for the building between the two units to contain workshops, stores, a water treatment plant, laboratory, welfare rooms, as well as the diesel emergency generators for Unit I.

<snip>

In January 1995, Russia and Iran signed a contract under which Russia would provide one VVER-1000 (aka WWER-1000) 950-1,073 MWe (electrical) light water reactor at Bushehr. The VVER-1000 reactor would be similar in configuration to Unit Four of the Russian Balakovskaya plant at Balakovo, Saratov. The Russian reactors would be installed in the original structures designed for the German 1,200-1,300 MWe reactors. Since the horizontal VVER-1000 steam generators were larger than the original German design, the project would require an enlargement of the existing reactor building, though the finished reactor dome would still resemble the German design.

<snip>


and because Siemens parts are still being used there:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3931663,00.html

'Siemens sent equipment to Iran reactor via Russia'

German engineering giant announced cutting relations with Iran but Der Spiegel report says Frankurt Airport customs recently seized Siemens-made switches headed for Bushehr via Moscow

Published: 08.08.10, 08:16 / Israel News

Frankfurt Airport customs seized Siemens-made switches and computer modules last June in a shipment headed for Iran's Bushehr reactor via Moscow, Der Spigel reported.

<snip>

German customs inspectors said that six similar shipments have been sent since the end of 2009 containing various Siemens parts for the Iranian nuclear industry. All six shipments left Frankfurt and reached their destination in Bushehr.

<snip>


More info on power plant water treatment: http://anto-hendarto.blogspot.com/2010/03/water-treatment.html
Nuclear power plants also require pure water for the spent fuel cooling ponds, which isn't mentioned in that article.


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Throckmorton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 01:21 PM
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11. Major yes, Safety related, no
Still, without polishers, you can't prevent oxygen and hydrogen damage from shortening component life.

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