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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 05:54 PM Original message |
Heinberg: The End of Growth |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. OK "Economic growth as we have known it is over" but economic growth of a different type will |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Only if the next phase of growth is also defined as "economic" growth. |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. It always amazes me that everyone just assumes |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. Impressive credentials for writing about global problems... |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well, from experience around here |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Ah, he needs permission to think. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. He doesn't need permission to think. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. His bio is filled with, shall we say, some major embellishments? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Ahhh, I see now, he may support nuclear power |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. He doesn't, but I suspect he's also not sufficiently adamant in denouncing it |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 07:01 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. What a breathtaking smear! |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Right.... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That reminds me |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. Are you sure he supports nuclear power? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. As of 2009 he sure didn't. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. It doesn't matter if he does or not |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. He puts you to shame |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. People who study economics or energy are *not* equipped to judge our resource utilization. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Why is his book listed in "business and economics"? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Irrelevant. We're talking about credentials. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Right I forgot, you are the "push the counter-culture meme" guy. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. "That's why we have peer review." |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Oh! the personal attacks! oh my can't we stop the personal attacks! |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. He claims scholarly expertise that he does not have. |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. I'm more impressed with intelligence and a persons ability to percieve reality |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Isn't that the same sort of thing Palin's supporters say to justify believing her swill? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Do you read what I write? |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Bill Gates |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Steve jobs |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Lovins make me laugh too |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Right. And how about your credentials, kristopher? |
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ishaneferguson (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. Kunstler redux. NT |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-10 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. I had this very discussion yesterday. I fear, and yet I hope. |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
31. I've been thinking some about "growth via increased diversity" |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I think we'd have to re-examine what we consider valuable, and by how much |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-10 12:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I wonder how our reptilian brain would react to such a situation? |
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