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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:13 PM
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:16 PM
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1. E&E ice watchers unite? Very interesting.
We may yet have another ice watch this coming year.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:18 PM
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2. I should probably wait until march.
But where's the fun in that?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 06:20 PM
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3. Eh, this last summer was fun, I can never get enough of it.
So keep on postin'. :hi:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:23 PM
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4. We MAY have another ice watch?
Ice watch 2011 is already the planned highlight of my year. :P
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 02:18 AM
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6. We got ahead of ourselves for 2010, though. :P
I know it (the ice watchers) got awfully quiet around here around the end of Sept. when the ice seemed to be making a nice recovery.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 07:24 PM
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5. .
:popcorn:
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 07:00 AM
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7. so ... obama's good for the arctic?
:weisenheimer:
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 11:11 AM
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8. How about the Antarctic? That is melting as we speak (and does that every year)
This started as a response, but quickly became a place I could put some of the sites on the Antarctic I have found, used or read over the last few years while reviewing this topic:

The West Antarctic Ice Sheet is called the Godzilla of Global Warming. If it breaks, you can see a 15-20 feet increase in world wide ocean levels within days. Remember Ice Sheets are

This is believed to have occurred about 120,000 years ago in what is called the "Mad house Century":
http://www.imaja.com/as/environment/can/journal/madhousecentury.html
http://home.earthlink.net/~icedneuron/CCLinks.htm
http://news.discovery.com/earth/how-stable-is-the-west-antarctic-ice-sheet.html
http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/09/collapse-of-west-antarctic-ice-sheet.html
http://www.glaciologia.cl/textos/vaughan.pdf

Drawing of Antarctica if all the ice melted (This includes the 65 plus feet increase in sea level rise):
Please note this is highly unlikely and even with the worse case scenario of global warming will take centuries, I just put it here to show how much of Antarctica is the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.


The last 20 year collapse of the Wilkins Ice Shelf:

http://gallery.usgs.gov/tags/NR2010_02_22

West Antarctic Ice Sheet (WAIS):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet
http://whyfiles.org/shorties/096ice_sheet/index.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=rethinking-the-west-antar&ec=ypi
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090205142132.htm
http://www.co2science.org/subject/w/summaries/waiscollapse.php
http://eesc.columbia.edu/courses/w4937/Readings/Pollard.Deconto.2009.pdf
http://www.princeton.edu/step/people/faculty/michael-oppenheimer/research/Oppenheimer-Alley-04.pdf
http://nora.nerc.ac.uk/769/1/The_return_of_a_paradigm_16_-_nora.pdf
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~mstuding/wais.html

British Antarctic Survey:
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/

Mini-ice Age (c 1250-1850) This was the last reversal of the general warming of the earth since the end of the last Ice Age:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Can Global Warming lead to the next Ice Age?:
http://discovermagazine.com/2002/sep/cover
http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/11-01-2009/106922-earth_ice_age-0/

Younger-Dryas Global Cooling, 12.800-11,500 years ago (This was the most severe reversal of the present "Warming period"):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
http://news.discovery.com/earth/why-the-younger-dryas-matters.html
http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/4/383.full
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/abrupt/data4.html

The Earth's 100,000 year cycle:
http://www.grandunification.com/hypertext/Earths_100000_yr_cycle.html

NASA on Antarctica:


http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/20100108_Is_Antarctica_Melting.html

Arctic Currents:

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=9206
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
Complex "Plumbing" found below WAIS:
http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/thisweek/2007/02/20_icesheet.asp

Antarctic ice loss exceeds Greenland's:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?old=2008012326052

Global Sea Level Rise:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/warnings/waterworld/
Map that shows you the affect of Global Sea Level Rise anywhere in the world:
http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/
Google Flood Map (Increase is in Inches, 15-20 meter raise would be 570-780 inches, 65 Meter would be about 2470 inches)
http://globalfloodmap.org/
http://climateprogress.org/2009/02/05/antarctic-ice-sheet-collapse-even-more-catastrophic-for-us-coasts/

Maps of 100 Meter raise is sea level (Worse case Scenario, i.e. ALL ICE EVERYWHERE Melts, most Global Warming stops at 65 Meters):
http://resumbrae.com/archive/warming/100meter.html

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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-10 05:54 PM
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9. That's area covered
A separate problem is ice thickness.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 06:12 PM
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10. .
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 06:26 PM
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11. :O
:popcorn:
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