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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:21 PM Original message |
It's official: 2010 NOT the hottest year on record |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. I burned a gallon of diesel fuel to celebrate! |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. right on! way to "adjust your level of concern appropriately." ! |
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Geoff R. Casavant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Bookmarking to view future discussion. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yes, deniers tend to select the *coolest* datasets, GISS however, is the most reliable. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. There is no way to prove that |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. CLARREO should verify it, but GISS is the most reliable because it leaves nothing out. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Flat out wrong |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Shorter dataset showing more warming over the shorter period of time. Surprise. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Again Josh, you are wrong |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Uh, you just verified what I said. The original graph goes to 10 years dude. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. BTW, I chose GISS because it is the most comprehensive. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I'll be more specific |
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Mark Maker (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. But wait, isn't that satellite records going all the way back to 1978? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. It's fine to use satellite measurements, but one must consider that they don't pick up arctic... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Oh please Josh |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Their extropolations (what you call interpolation) are accurate for Antarctica. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You are missing the point |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I didn't know 1998 was 18 years ago. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. It's not and I never said it was |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. They're also accurate for the arctic: |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yeah that's why Maine's governor made an emergency proclamation to open fishing season early |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Well, I have to give you this much: |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Nice Graph |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yeah, that graph clearly shows global cooling! |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Are you blind? |
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beardown (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. So which is it? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Keep reading past the comma |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. You seem to be experiencing some gender confusion |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Oh yeah, El Nino peaked in Jan-Feb 2010. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Exactly, El Nino peaked in Jan-Feb 2010. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. 2010 was cooler in the beginning than 1998. El Nino ended in May of 2010, August of 1998. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I don't think you fully understand ENSO |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. We've gone from a mild El Niño |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Wishful thinking? It is statistically tied with 1998 on UAH, Spencer admits this. |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
35. What was once an unheard-of event (1998) is now becoming commonplace |
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