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Monsoon
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:07 PM Original message |
Conservation group sues to stop California solar plant |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a desert |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Not true. |
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bananas
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. That environment isn't going to last, because of global warming. |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. So your point is that we should stop protecting species... |
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bananas
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Wed Jan-19-11 04:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
43. No, that's not my point at all |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Many just don't understand the magnitude of the problem. So True! |
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Kolesar
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. #1 Best post |
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hunter
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Are you missing a sarcasm tag perhaps? |
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Kolesar
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Very imaginative |
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Nihil
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Wed Jan-19-11 04:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Pretty obvious really (if you try reading the post you replied to) |
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msongs
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. CA solar should be on rooftops of houses and buildings not corporate controlled rip offs nt |
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RKP5637
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Very good point! n/t |
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Monsoon
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Houses maybe. What do you do with multi story buildings? |
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Kali
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. have you driven through or flown over the suburban southwest? |
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XemaSab
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. There are a shocking number of |
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Monsoon
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Yep, I live here. |
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XemaSab
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. So much word |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Power for the people, not big energy. |
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stuntcat
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. So much word, x2 |
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joshcryer
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
30. Prices are coming down, I expect solar shingles to be competitive with actual shingles... |
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Kablooie
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. If it's not kick started with major desert systems we'll never the rooftops. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Brightsource Energy's 370-megawatt Ivanpah solar energy plant is CSP, not PV. |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Not all desert projects are CSP. And actually some people ARE putting CSP on their roof. |
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Kali
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. wasteland? |
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davidinalameda
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. what the cost between that and the solar farm? |
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Kali
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Mon Jan-17-11 11:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I have no clue |
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defendandprotect
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
12. Either this is a faux "enviromental group" or they have a good reason .... |
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Odin2005
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. Probably Luddites that suddenly turns on any form of Green energy that becomes viable. |
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Nihil
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Tue Jan-18-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Possibly. They might also be concerned about slash & burn developers ... |
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phantom power
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. "no matter the consequences" |
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txlibdem
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
18. This group embodies the myopic, disastrous focus of most "environmental" groups |
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Kali
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. yeah it's Jon Marvel's baby |
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txlibdem
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Guess he's never heard of Global Climate Change then? |
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hunter
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Tue Jan-18-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
20. Good. |
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txlibdem
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Tue Jan-18-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. "Keep this solar sh*t off my desert." |
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hunter
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Tue Jan-18-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I've experience with thirty years of California wind and solar scams. |
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txlibdem
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Tue Jan-18-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I agree with some of what you wrote |
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Kolesar
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Tue Jan-18-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. My electricity costs 6 cents more than it does in the rest of Ohio because of the nuke plants |
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hunter
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Pacific Gas and Electric doesn't use much coal... |
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joshcryer
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Tue Jan-18-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Here in Colorado we'e been expanding natural gas and wind and it's made the rates go up. |
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guardian
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Wed Jan-19-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
51. No |
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joshcryer
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Thu Jan-20-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Expansion of natural gas did not make prices go up but Colorado expanded natural gas supplies. |
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guardian
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Thu Jan-20-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Are you on drugs? |
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Kolesar
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Downstate Ohio electricity is cheap because the plants are paid off and not in the rate base |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Electricity is "cheap" there because most of the coal plants are exempted from the Clean Air Act. |
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G. Odoreida
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
59. Great philosophy, so far it has failed as a political platform |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-20-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. President Carter's ouster taught the politicos what happens when you actually tell the truth |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Land is a resource. Like any resource, we should be careful about using it up. |
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XemaSab
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Tue Jan-18-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. The parking lot at the Sierra Nevada brewery is shaded with solar panels |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Some actually use rooftops rather than parking lots. |
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XemaSab
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The advantage of a parking lot in the Valley |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:28 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Which would directly save on fuel usage, because air conditioners wouldn't need to run as hard. |
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tinrobot
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. I'm all for solar covered parking lots. |
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OnlinePoker
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Thu Jan-20-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. I don't understand why every airport doesn't have solar systems on their unused space. |
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Nihil
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Fri Jan-21-11 04:17 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I suspect it's because of the glare ... |
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Bigmack
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Tue Jan-18-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. There's other sides to these stories.... |
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tinrobot
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Tue Jan-18-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Actually, I would welcome solar panels in my backyard, or on my roof. |
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Nihil
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:12 AM Response to Reply #35 |
45. Good luck with keeping them out. |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
52. "Environmentalists" who block solar power are dooming thousands of marine species to extinction |
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hunter
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Meanwhile we keep burning coal. |
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Nihil
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Thank you. |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. We'll just have to disagree on the usefulness of desert solar projects |
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