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Wed Jan-19-11 11:55 AM Original message |
The New Light Bulbs Lose a Little Shine |
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itsrobert
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. I put two brand new $6.00 bulbs |
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lfairban
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Could be the location of the photo-sensor |
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Statistical
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Can use a normal photo sensor w/ CFL. As you discovered they will kill them. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. I tried/used them in my bathroom - no more |
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Maine_Nurse
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And they don't put out useful heat. nt |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Actually, they get quite hot |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Glass gets brittle"??? |
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madmax
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Sorry I don't have a link |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Oh, there've been incidents of CFL integrated ballasts catching fire. |
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madmax
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Cite one yourself for your claim that it's "ridiculous" |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. As you well know, I can't cite instance of occurrences that don't occur. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Tesha, you amaze me |
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InvisibleTouch
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Wed Jan-19-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I can corroborate. I have had them break too. |
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wtmusic
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. Happened to me |
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joshcryer
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Thu Jan-20-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. I got some of the originals that came out in the late 90s early 2000s and one *blew up* on me. |
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Maine_Nurse
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Not heating kind of hot, unfortunately |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. For the living room, buy a higher-wattage CFL. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. Tell you what, I'll just buy a reguar wattage regular bulb. |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Sure -- burn three to four times the electricity. |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yeah! |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-21-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
82. "We can always make more electricity." |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Between the short lifespan, the abysmal light quality, the mercury and the switching power supply |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. And that Nuclear electricity you buy is "too cheap to meter!" anyway, right? |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. The problem is that there's more to the life cycle than the electricity. |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. So how was the mercury in the CFL affecting you... |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Mercury is a neurotoxin, of course. |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. And the mercury in CFLs is "captured" within a sealed glass tube. |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Not sure what your issue is? |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. You're so much nicer than I |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. As my sainted mother used to say |
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madokie
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Wed Jan-19-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. Amazing I changed all ours out three or four years ago and have replaced two |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 05:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. It could be that the duty cycle on mine has been too short |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. You have to stop the "turn off the switch" behavior when you leave a room with CFLs. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. That's very very odd, I'm going on 4 years for my latest batch. I figure 5 years is reasonable. |
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InvisibleTouch
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. I use them, and they last a reasonable amount of time... |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Disposal of CFL bulbs -- Home Depot takes them |
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InvisibleTouch
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. That's great to know, thanks!! n/t |
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LiberalEsto
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. Some CFLs do wear out faster than expected |
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liberal N proud
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. I hate the quality of light from the CFL |
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joshcryer
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Thu Jan-20-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
72. So use a halogen lamp for reading. |
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Nihil
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Fri Jan-21-11 05:10 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. The "daylight" CFLs are also good for that if you want a bright room. |
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Kali
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. glad I'm not the only one |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. How far is it to the nearest Home Depot/Lowes/etc.? |
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Kali
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. thanks! |
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tularetom
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. I have 40 burnt out CFL's in a bag waiting to go to the e-waste dump |
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hedgehog
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Wed Jan-19-11 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. The article suggests to me that the bulbs are saving energy. |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. The porch light... |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. CFLs do not last in dimmer switches |
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qb
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
19. I hope this accelerates the development of better LED options. |
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hedgehog
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. I'm waiting for the LEDs myself. Right now there are some out there, |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. LED Christmas lights mostly use cheap "half-wave" rectifier circuits and... |
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hedgehog
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Thanks! I didn't know about that! |
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hunter
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. I've got some full-wave commercial grade LED Christmas lights... |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. 2012 will be the year of the LED bulbs |
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qb
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Thanks for the info! I'll keep my eyes open. |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. Here's a look at some of the issues with CFLs |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. He's got several things wrong in his post |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-19-11 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
26. CFLs do not work well everywhere |
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localroger
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Buying extra for spares isn't an issue |
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hedgehog
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Wed Jan-19-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Don't have time to look it up right now, but I read that the mercury |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. It depends on the amount of coal in your local generation mix |
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Tesha
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. A clarification about X-10... |
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localroger
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Fri Jan-21-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
87. Lamp modules are quite picky |
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arachadillo
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Wed Jan-19-11 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. CFLs |
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Kennah
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Wed Jan-19-11 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well, I am perplexed |
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NNadir
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Wed Jan-19-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
50. Still, low watt light bulbs are generally a good idea. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-19-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. That was a nice non-ranty personal story, thanks for it. |
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Kaleva
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Wed Jan-19-11 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
62. They don't seem to last in areas where they are turned on & off often |
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Elasg
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Thu Jan-20-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Correct me if I am wrong, but... |
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Kaleva
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. They did but are much cheaper |
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joshcryer
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Thu Jan-20-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. A 5 minute on off cycle simple reduces their life by half. |
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Kaleva
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Thu Jan-20-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Thanks! |
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joshcryer
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Thu Jan-20-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I use power strips, basically, when I go to sleep, I switch them off. |
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Nihil
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Thu Jan-20-11 04:57 AM Response to Original message |
63. Casting my mind back to previous episodes of this discussion ... |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
64. $40 for an LED light bulb seems like way too much to pay --or is it? |
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Statistical
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Thu Jan-20-11 10:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. One thing to watch out about LED is the wattage comparison. |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. It's actually the Lumens that needs comparing |
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Statistical
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Thu Jan-20-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. LUMEN!!! That is it. Yeah some serious deceptive marketing going on. |
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txlibdem
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Fri Jan-21-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. As with all products, you need to become an expert to avoid ripoffs |
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Fri Jan-21-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Well if/when there is a $40 800 lumens LED that is a game changer. |
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txlibdem
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Fri Jan-21-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Moore's Law |
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arachadillo
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Fri Jan-21-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. Cost of LEDs |
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txlibdem
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Fri Jan-21-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. You're talking about Rick Perry's $25 bn deficit, none of the RW pundits talk about that |
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Thu Jan-20-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
65. Those things are horrible for the migraine prone |
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JohnWxy
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Thu Jan-20-11 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
70. Seems like mine last about half as long as incandescant. |
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happyslug
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Fri Jan-21-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
83. I notice no one ask if their local Utilities has problems with wattage? |
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Statistical
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Fri Jan-21-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. If someone does have a lot of bad surges in the area a whole house surge protector is a good idea. |
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happyslug
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Fri Jan-21-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Surge protectors only work to a limited degree |
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GliderGuider
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Fri Jan-21-11 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
84. Why CFLs are important |
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phantom power
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Fri Jan-21-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. What do you think... |
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GliderGuider
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Fri Jan-21-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. "Solving the problem" |
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Fri Jan-21-11 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
92. I bought some California subsidized bulbs a few months ago. 2 have burned out already. |
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