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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 01:59 PM
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"Garbled Syntax, Muddled Arguments And Childish Behaviour" - The Economist On Climate Hearings
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Committee hearings are always like this. After smarmy exchanges about how delighted they are to be speaking to one another, congressmen ask grotesquely biased “Gotcha!” questions that the witnesses, usually harried officials, do their best not to respond to in a meaningful fashion. There are a lot of requests, almost always ignored, for yes or no answers. Mrs Jackson, for example, expended considerable time and effort not saying that greenhouse-gas regulation would raise energy prices and thus harm the economy.

Sometimes, the pretence of give-and-take is abandoned altogether. This morning, Joe “Sorry BP” Barton, a Republican from Texas, asked a laughably leading question, requested a yes or no answer, and then—before receiving one—told Mrs Jackson, “The answer is no.” When she asked, with faux naivety, whether Mr Barton wanted her to answer the question herself or comment on his remarks, he replied with admirable honesty that he didn’t.

What was surprising, given how long Congress has debated this subject, is how incompetent the grandstanding was. I’m reconciled to the fact that America’s congressmen are not all silver-tongued Ciceros. Indeed, most of them seem to have trouble following a train of thought, finishing a sentence or getting noun and verb to agree. Several appeared not to know that the heinous acts they were complaining about were committed not by Mrs Jackson and her staff, but by the courts, or by the administration of George W. Bush. One confused cap-and-trade schemes to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions with the more rigid administrative approach used by the EPA, giving Mrs Jackson a let-out from an otherwise awkward question. Another did not seem to know that Congress had the power to overturn executive regulations. A third proudly declared the he was an engineer, and so knew a thing or two about science, only to have Mrs Jackson retort that she too was an engineer (oops!), and so knew the importance of deferring to experts in a given field. A fourth made a fart joke, and then proudly declared, “That’s humour!”

But in addition to garbled syntax, muddled arguments and childish behaviour, the Republican attack-dogs were surprisingly off-message (the Democrats shared all these faults too, but this wasn’t their show). Some argued that global warming wasn’t proven, others that the EPA was misinterpreting the Clean Air Act (something the Supreme Court has cleared it of) and yet others that all the EPA’s efforts to control pollution of any sort since its creation in 1970 had placed an intolerable burden on business. A representative from Oregon starting banging on about the treatment of wood-based biomass in a bill that has already been shelved. Another Republican seemed to be arguing that the EPA should adopt more stringent regulations than it has proposed—not a popular idea within the party.

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http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/02/congress_and_climate_change
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:05 PM
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1. He should spend a week reading E/E.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 02:12 PM
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2. Hey, I resemble that remark!
:rofl:
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:05 PM
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3. You know, I think we get the syntax right almost all the time.
:patriot:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:11 PM
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4. All we need is more fart jokes
n/t
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 06:19 PM
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5. Farts are ALWAYS funny.
B-)

--imm
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 10:50 PM
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6. I left E/E for a year and came back to find a troll space
I notice that participation by more than a few regulars is pretty rare. Imagine that--on a Democratic forum. Troll accomplished.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 10:58 PM
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7. No worries Kolesar - I'm here pretty much daily
I'm also slightly drunk at the moment - but don't let that put you off!

:beer:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 05:25 AM
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9. Interesting coincidence that ...
... it's only when you came back that it became a troll space?

Hmmm ...

:evilgrin:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 08:28 AM
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10. I was pronuclear until the amateur nuclear PR NNexus totally flipped out
and devolved to insults and flame baiting.

There was some coincidence with the timing, because a few years ago I realized that governments and Wall Street could not accomplish nuclear generation in this country.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 06:16 AM
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12. So, one person's "attitude" is enough to change your mind?
Guess we didn't need you on our side anyway.

But thanks! I guess....
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:34 AM
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13. LOL!!!111
:rofl:
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 07:59 PM
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14. So the dipshit emoticon parenthetical peanut gallery is accounted for.
Duly noted.

And stuff.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:18 AM
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11. Don't MAKE me come out from under this bridge!!!
:hi:
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 05:24 AM
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8. Oi! Who rattled your cage then?
:P
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