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azul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:50 AM
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Cal air resources board tries breathing new life into murdered electric car.
"By 2025, 15 percent of the new cars and small trucks sold each year in California would have to be powered by batteries, fuel cells or some other technology that produces little or no air pollution under rules that state regulators will propose next month.

The rules, from the California Air Resources Board, would force automakers to sell an increasing number of electric cars and plug-in hybrids in the state beginning in 2018.

California has tried to impose similar mandates in the past, without success. Starting in 1990, the Air Resources Board required carmakers to ensure that 10 percent of the vehicles for sale in the state by the year 2003 produce zero tailpipe emissions. Automakers sued, and the board backed off, concluding that electric vehicle technology wasn't ready for the mass market.

Now it is, board officials say.

~snip~

The board plans to introduce its proposed rules on Dec. 7 and could vote on them as early as January."


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/15/BUC91LVJ7C.DTL


note: the CARB has previously been found guilty of killing the electric car.
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:31 PM
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1. CARB is guilty of many things. Total fraud bureaucratic agency. nt
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 05:43 PM
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2. what horseshit
yup
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 07:32 AM
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3. CARB member Alan Lloyd and the Hydrogen Hoax, aided by Repukes and Big Oil killed the EV
While championing CARB's efforts on behalf of California's with its 1990 mandate (and other regulations over the years), the film suggests Lloyd may have had a conflict of interest as the director of the California Fuel Cell Partnership. The ZEV change allowed a marginal amount of hydrogen fuel cell cars to be produced in the future versus the immediate continued growth of its electric car requirement. Footage shot in the meetings showed Lloyd shutting down battery electric car proponents while giving the car makers all the time they wanted to make their points.
Hydrogen fuel cell

The hydrogen fuel cell was presented by the film as an alternative that distracts attention from the real and immediate potential of electric vehicles to an unlikely future possibility embraced by auto makers, oil companies and a pro-business administration in order to buy time and profits for the status quo. The film corroborates the claim that hydrogen vehicles are a mere distraction by stating that "A fuel cell car powered by hydrogen made with electricity uses three to four times more energy than a car powered by batteries" and by interviewing the author of The Hype About Hydrogen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car#California_Air_Resources_Board
The very beginnings of the Hydrogen Hoax, championed by the director of the California Fuel Cell Partnership who just happened to be the Chairman of CARB.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 09:55 AM
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4. We cannot trust our government to "mandate" our wishes
Vote with your wallet. Buy or lease an electric car. You can get one from one of the big car dealers or buy it off ebay or a local conversion shop. Educate yourself on the battery options and range options available and choose whichever vehicle works best for you.

If you have a non-running vehicle you might want to convert that to electric either by yourself or take it to a conversion shop so they can do all the work for you. Any vehicle can be turned into an electric vehicle with the range you need -- how much money you want to spend is the only question. A Hummer EV? Yes, it's possible but expensive. A Ford Probe or S-10 pickup? Definitely possible and among the cheapest options (the lighter the vehicle the fewer batteries you'll need).
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