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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 01:34 AM
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Don't judge a company by it's website (QW thermoelectrics)
Take a browse around this website, especially push the red button.

http://www.hi-z.com/

...did you get the "first impression" that I did -- that this is a bunch of bodgers slapping together what is most likely a rebrand of someone else's thermoelectric modules?

So imagine my surprise when I found a full PDF of a slideshow for one of their papers in the materials for a national 2005 conference on thermoeletrics:

http://www.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/pdfs/deer_2005/session6/2005_deer_krommenhoek.pdf

Special attention to pages 11 and 28.

So much for garage bodgers... these guys are actually pushing the state of the art.

So what's the signifigance of a high-efficiency, low cost peltier thermoelectric? Well they have a niche -- thermophotovoltaics are very efficient but require high temperatures. Thermoelectrics can handle the low-end -- places where there is an abundant supply of not-quite-so-high-temperature heat. That's exhaust pipes, for example. Even with only 10-20% efficiency, if the heat is easy to collect the economy of converting it will likely be there.

Current thermoelectrics are about $8/W from the best online source I can find. If the raw materials cost translates in a signifigant way to post-production cost, these would be one tenth the cost of Hi-Z's modules (also in the $8/W ballpark) that would be near that magic sweet spot of cost-competitivity with fossil generation equipment.

FWIW.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 01:43 AM
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1. i`ve seen this before and it is
very interesting. the price on the small units are low enough to experiment with..
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 04:15 AM
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2. And could be the prime mover in an electric hybrid vehicle...
Nice thing about external combustion is that you can burn anything, including solid fuels.
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