Bush To Call For More Ethanol Use In Next Week's SOTU - Reuters

[hatrack]

Jane. Stop this crazy thing.

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One source briefed by White House officials said Bush's speech on Jan. 23 could call for even more ethanol usage -- over 60 billion gallons by 2030.

"I think it's going to be a big number," the source said on condition of anonymity. "It's in the ballpark of even above 60 billion (gallons) by 2030."

A White House spokesman declined to comment on the details of the speech.

"The President has been a leader on the issue of renewable fuels and has spoken about that numerous times in the past," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel. "But at this time I'm not going to get into commenting on what might or might not be in the State of the Union address."

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http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/39866/story.htm

[tuvor]

1. Sure thing, george. Right after...

...we get back from Mars.

[tridim]

2. Didn't he do that last time? Switchgrass and all that. n/t

[Skink]

3. What are we going to do for corn syrup now?

[muntrv]

4. If so, then we should be bringing our troops home since we don't need them to

lock down Iraq's oil. Of course, I'm using logic.

[sam sarrha]

5. i heard a tank of Ethanol in a SUV = food for a year of corn for an African, that would be sinful

[Maestro]

6. I need to find my Scientific American mag

but I remember reading that the way ethanol is produced now, it is very unfriendly to the environment. I need to find that source. Anyhow, now allow me to throw up...pretzelnut, a leader on the issue of renewable fuels?

[NNadir]

7. He will also be calling for a return of Jesus.

It will be amusing to see if the ethanol cowards, um I mean lobbyists, I mean those guys who have blocked me from responding to their illiterate threads, will start calling for an end to ethanol subsidies because Bush supports it.

No, they won't, even though I can't count on all the fingers in Brazil the number of times I've been told that nuclear energy is unacceptable because Bush and Cheney allegedly support it.

It's great, though, to hear from the nation's most prominent alcoholic all about alcohol will save us.

[eppur_se_muova]

8. Unintentionally hilarious HL -- "Bu**sh** calls for more ethanol use"

He's ordering a round? Or *listening* to Bu**sh** drives others to more ethanol use?

[Dogmudgeon]

9. Maybe he'll call for more HEMP use as well

:evilgrin:

--p!
Are there any cars that can run on cocaine?

[Nihil]

10. Think there might be a few on our (British) motorways ...

... they certainly like driving along the white lines!

:evilgrin:

[RestoreGore]

11. The only thing Bush renews is bs

And corn ethanol is not an effective answer, but then, if it isn't the oil lobby it will now be this one to replace it.

[Javaman]

12. Here it comes, the rise of the Ethanol Giant....

I first wrote this a while back...

The rise of the Ethanol Giant...
Posted by Javaman in Environment/Energy
Wed Apr 19th 2006, 09:09 PM
As gas prices at the pump begin to sky rocket, moron* and his* room full of dopes begin ranting about the benefits of ethanol, we need to stop and think about what he* is saying.

After reading several editorials/opinions/scientific stats on here regarding ethanol and basically that its production of ethanol isn't cost effective, but yet is still being pushed by moron*,I thought to myself, who exactly would benefit from this?

It's interesting, ethanol can be used in conventional gas engines, however, it doesn't get the same bang for the buck in mileage. So thusly, a person has to buy more of it to get from point A to point B.

Now the production costs of ethanol will be subsidized. But exactly who will be getting the benefits of those subsidies? The average family farmer? Hell no, it will be the Agra-corps.

Since it's the crops that get the subsidies in this nation and not the farmer (as it is in Europe), the Agra-corps stand to make billions on this issue. Then when they have reaped all the money they can stuff into their greedy pockets at the expense of the American driver, the plug will be pulled because the gov't will state that it's taking a huge hit in providing subsidies. And once again we will be right back where we started.

But what really scares the crap out of me regarding all of this is: These Agra-corps hold the patent on many seeds (completely unconstitutional, but that's for another discussion). So this means, even though oil companies hold their drilling rights and leases to certain lands around the world and they along with OPEC control the spigots, there are always one or two nations that don't go along and the oil keeps flowing, abate expensively. However, if one of the big Agra-corps gets all pissy about the price of ethanol, all they have to do is stop harvesting. Sue anyone that uses their seed. Fuel production comes to a screeching halt.

You think OPEC has the U.S. by the balls now? I fear for our future, the one held by the Ethanol Giants.