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GoogleTheTruth Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:01 PM
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Does this scare anyone else?
How Real ID will affect you...

What's all the fuss with the Real ID Act about?
President Bush is expected to sign an $82 billion military spending bill soon that will, in part, create electronically readable, federally approved ID cards for Americans. The House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved the package--which includes the Real ID Act--on Thursday.

What does that mean for me?
Starting three years from now, if you live or work in the United States, you'll need a federally approved ID card to travel on an airplane, open a bank account, collect Social Security payments, or take advantage of nearly any government service. Practically speaking, your driver's license likely will have to be reissued to meet federal standards.

http://news.com.com/FAQ+How+Real+ID+will+affect+you/2100-1028_3-5697111.html

http://news.com.com/National+ID+cards+on+the+way/2100-1028_3-5573414.html?tag=nl
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:03 PM
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1. The mark of the beast.....
I'm telling ya, Bush is the Anti-Christ. http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

:scared:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:05 PM
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2. Who gets the contracts for making the cards, & managing the data?
Follow the money.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:12 PM
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3. choice point for now,
yes that one. don't take the card. don't fly. don't go to the federal bldg. don't drive.

fuck em, i'll never take one and i'm an atheist.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:13 PM
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4. Cheney & Daughters Management Sysyems LLC
of course!
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:26 PM
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5. Ve Vant to see your papers
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:28 PM
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6. Something else to be stolen. And if we don't have an ID, we'll
automatically be an enemy combatant and disappeared.
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:31 PM
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7. Federal Reserve & World Banks would love it
Edited on Sun Oct-29-06 08:33 PM by hpot
It gives them more control over people.

America Freedom to Fascism
(See 1:16:16)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&hl=en
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:47 PM
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8. Sounds like Mogambo produced that! n/t
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 08:51 PM
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9. 3 years from now we will have a democratic president and these
hitler tactics will dissapear
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GoogleTheTruth Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:14 PM
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10. i'll believe that with Gore in the WH...
but not with Clinton... sorry, I just believe these is on the BushCo payroll. no evidence. just gut feeling.
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hpot Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:18 PM
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11. Not Until We get Rid Of the Federal Reserve
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 10:56 PM
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13. Hpot, check your PMs. n/t
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-29-06 09:36 PM
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12. Here's one that'll scare....
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2006%20Opinion%20Editorials/October/29%20o/US%20National%20ID%20Cards%20by%20May%202008%20By%20Nancy%20Levant.htm

Al-Jazeerah, October 29, 2006

At large, the American people are still unaware of the issuance of the Real ID card forthcoming in May of 2008. This new national/international ID card, and its interactivity with national/international databases, can access our medical, financial, driving, Social Security, license(s), firearms registrations, and political status inside its high tech/little nano brain. In essence, it holds our private lives on a swipe-able card that is then privy to any organization, retailer, or person requesting our identification or our money. In other words, our life histories accessible upon command from one 2X3 inch card.

Having no choice but to comply, most American people will accept their new national/international ID card. It is my understanding that without the card, we will be denied bank accounts in the United States of America, a driver’s license, and the right to fly on airplanes unless we have been issued a Real ID card. One might imagine that global retailers might require the Real ID to purchase food and gasoline. Take a look at your current driver’s license. Check the expiration date. 2008 would be a good global guess.

For those of us who have seen United Nations military vehicles in the United States, and who have also noticed convoys of military tanks being transported through the wilderness areas of our nation – the same areas that have been locked down and away from the American people via Biosphere Reserves and conservation corridors - we have realized for a great many years that, as one patriot stated, the “stage was being set” for difficult times on American soil – the key issue that mass media ignores at its professional finest. So, with stages being set, one must also look to the timing of the Real ID card, and to 2008 in general. Let us not forget all the other paramilitary systems in our nation, like the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA, Citizens Corp groups, Neighborhood Watch groups, C.O.P.S. (Community Oriented Policing Services), the militarizing of law enforcement departments, and the many new for-hire corporations that offer private armies with weapons for a price. And then, of course, there are the U.N. peacekeeping forces, which the American military has been actively involved with for many, many decades while, simultaneously and incrementally, our “leaders” have been closing our homeland military bases during these same decades.

The professional timing of the Real ID card in 2008, and its mandatory issuance, brings to mind several forthcoming coincidences and issues. The collecting and databasing of all personal information of every American adult – coinciding with the CFR’s North American Community – and all global government infrastructures in place and play, one must consider the following:

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-30-06 12:02 AM
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14. Crap, they're all over - Nigeria, UAE, UK - Google National ID cards
http://news.google.com/news?q=national+ID+cards&hl=en&lr=&ct=title&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&start=20


I found this one interesting, especially after watching Hpot's posted link to America Freedom to Fascism.

Chris Patten: Politicians have no grasp of technology

http://www.zdnetasia.com/news/business/printfriendly.htm?AT=61962828-39000003c

Former Hong Kong governor politician Chris Patten has said that a fundamental lack of understanding in government is to blame for a rash of ill-thought-out technology projects and related legislation in recent years.

Lord Patten of Barnes was especially critical of the government's ID card scheme, which is heavily reliant on technology. Speaking at the RSA Conference Europe on Wednesday, Patten said the scheme would not achieve one of its possible objectives of making borders more secure.

"I don't think ID cards make citizens more secure, or frontiers more secure. People would still have been blown up on the Tube last July if they'd had ID cards," he said.

He also criticised the support given to ID cards in 2003 by the then Home Secretary David Blunkett, calling the scheme a "populist Pavlovian Blunkett twitch". Blunkett resigned from the cabinet in 2005 over his involvement in political scandals.

Patten, a former EU Commissioner, was speaking at the three-day conference in Nice, France, on European business and technology.

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