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shockedcanadian Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:54 AM
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I launched lawsuit against CSIS and the RCMP...
For all of the Americans on this board, you have no idea how much persecution goes on in Canada at the domestic level. I would love to have some organization in the U.S champion the Rights of Canadians against their intelligence/police agencies, many would be extremely shocked on how "Stalinisque" these organizations are. Neither the FBI nor CIA enjoy the types of suppressing and unchallenged power that CSIS and the RCMP enjoy in Canada, and I can assure you they abuse these powers on a regular basis. It is more about protecting their unchallenged power and avoidung embarassment than it is about National Security. Canadians AND Americans are jeopardized due to this immoral M.O.

As for my situation,this has been a six year battle with Canadian authorities which has culminated in the launch of this lawsuit in the Federal Courts after attempting to come to terms with these organizations on far too many occassions. It has been an exhausting and fruitless process which I should have discarded long ago in favour of a legal remedy. I was naive and idealistic in my estimation of the Canadian Intelligence community, it is quite apparent that accountability is non-existent to those who hide behind false mantras while increasing their budgets and the level of fear in Canadians year after year.

I have named CSIS, the RCMP and Vic Toews in the suit; the original targeting/manufacturing which began almost twenty years ago will finally come to fruition and in detail.

I know how many people feel about these organizations, many feel it is taboo to even mention them in an online forum. I fully understand this concern, and I do not blame many of you. The reality is that this is precisely why people should be speaking out more, not necessarily in this or any other forum, but by first educating themselves and then communicating with politicians so that some change may occur. Situations like mine are travesties which speak to a much greater issue in this country; I am absolutely sure that there are others like myself who have suffered unnecessarily, any improvement to the lives of victims of such abuses is paramount to a healthy, vibrant democracy.

In a nutshell; noone should have their life essentially snuffed out at the age of 17, especially when they have not murdered anyone or lifted a finger to cause harm to anyone else. I was and am a law abiding adult who worked hard to graduate from university, I even considered pursuing a career in the military; I know what the meaning of sacrificing for ones' country is, even as I decided to not pursue this direction. Noone should be used as a pawn to further the gain of individuals and the organizations that they represent. It has and is happening in Canada and nobody gets to know how it happens, which is why I take my lawsuit seriously and very personal.

Thanks for your time, I will update as the courts proceed.
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:13 AM
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1. Garbage...........
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 10:20 AM by murphyj87
I think your contentions are delusional, and loaded with American-style paranoia. Canadians have far more rights, freedom, and liberties than Americans have. It is hilarious that you would appeal to Americans, most of whom are secretly monitored under the Patriot Act, to have any sympathy for your delusions. Nothing of the kind that you suggest happens in Canada and it is a testament to your delusions that you think that they do. Go and live in the the United States, since you obviously are infected with American paranoia, however, at least in Canada, you can have treatment for your paranoid delusions with no out of pocket costs, unlike what would happen in the United States.

Obviously your tin foil hat is on too tight.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:16 AM
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2. The OP thinks the Canadian Intelligence community had him fired from a bank job.
:shrug:
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:22 AM
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3. What bank ...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 10:24 AM by murphyj87
What bank would want someone so obviously paranoid and perhaps schizophrenic working for them?

He should go and live in the United States, and then he could have the Patriot Act to blame for his failures.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:24 AM
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4. Link
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murphyj87 Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:30 AM
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5. Just because...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 10:36 AM by murphyj87
Just because someone has delusions that something is true doesn't make it true. If he is, in fact, under investigation by CSIS, it is not without just cause. I still firmly believe that this is baseless and delusional.

The lives of far more Americans have been destroyed by the Patriot Act than anything that happens in Canada, and anyone investigated by CSIS is investigated for good reason, while the Patriot Act in the US is very arbitrary.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:49 AM
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6. I agree. Baseless and delusional. n/t
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shockedcanadian Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 09:57 PM
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7. This is why we have a legal system...
Edited on Wed Jul-13-11 10:05 PM by shockedcanadian
Glad to see you have taken an interest in my case. Since you have such an interest I would be happy to give you the court date in Ottawa once the federal court sets it up, so far the notices have been sent and acknowledged through the federal court in Ottawa. From Public safety minister Vic Toews to both Canadian Intelligence agencies. You can witness how democracy operates, and even the name of some of those involved.

Some information about Grant Bristow, agent provocateur and funding CSIS agent for the Heritage Front:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Bristow


Harpers involvement in the Reform Party, and opinion of former CSIS agent:


http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/02/20/17348231.html



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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:07 AM
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8. I have zero interest in your "case." Please seek psychiatric help. n/t
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shockedcanadian Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-11 06:14 AM
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9. For someone with no interest in my lawsuit...
Edited on Thu Jul-14-11 06:31 AM by shockedcanadian
You sure have some strong opinions about me.

Furthermore, the posting that I made regarding their interference into my job at the bank is just the latest; the tip of the iceberg, they interfered with my job at IBM also. PLENTY more details and evidence will be provided in court, any open minded and honest person who doubts my suggestions would gladly attend my court case.
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