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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:55 AM
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Pan-blues singing the blues - Taiwan
The KMT and the PFP have frequently defamed former president Lee Teng-hui (李登輝) and his wife as well as Chen and members of his family. It appears that the pan-blue camp is more than happy to dish out criticism; it just can't take it.

Meanwhile, the PFP basically accepts China's "one country, two systems." Soong and his followers are apparently untroubled by Hong Kong's dramatic decline under such a format. Why should the people of Taiwan be willing to see their country turned into a special administrative region of China, given the fate of the people of Hong Kong and Macau?

Because the KMT's and PFP's cross-strait policies fit perfectly into Beijing's fraudulent claims to sovereignty over Taiwan, the parties have attracted support from China -- both covert and overt -- in stonewalling the government's reform efforts. Beijing's rejection of the government's "small three links" policy is a prime example.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/edit/archives/2003/10/15/2003071768
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:00 AM
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1. Lots of chatter
but Taiwan invests in mainland China bigtime.

Enough already. Join and have done with it.

Save everyone time and trouble.
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Sephirstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:03 AM
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3. You're blind...
Taiwan's government is the most progressive in Asia.

China's is hiding pure unadulterated fascism under a mask of socialism.

I see no reason why Taiwan's people should want otherwise.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:07 AM
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4. Yeah, yeah yeah...rah rah
and other hokum.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 05:23 AM
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6. From my memory you're an intelligent person but you're way off on this
one M!

There's much more in this!

Formosa was never a part of China. I could surely say Poland has more right to Chicago than China claims it has to Formosa.

Read a little about the real history. Formosa was invaded by defeated and scattering National Chinese Army. They killed into the 10s of thousands and took over the island and renamed it Taiwan.

For the life of me, with the new Democratic Progessive Party President, Chun, I can't understand why he doesn't extradite these criminals back to China to face murder charges which were commited in both China and Formosa?

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The RKF of Asia, President Chen Shui Bian (Abian)
http://www.president.gov.tw/
http://www.president.gov.tw/1_president/e_subject-05a9.html
http://www.scanews.com/collester/article3/article3.html



Liu Yan Chun grew up in Taiwan firmly believing that her family would someday go back to mainland China. It took most of her life to realize that there would be no triumphant return, as envisioned by the Nationalists when they retreated (Edit: this word should be INVADED Formosa which they renamed to Taiwan.) to Taiwan after defeat by the Chinese Communists in 1949. It took her longer still to realize that she had no desire to return.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/315530.asp



First lady's European tour seen as diplomatic success
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/07/24/1059010376.htm


Assassination Attempt
Chen's wife, you know, was at a time an even more strident crusader than he was for the rights of the Taiwanese and the DPP. In 1985 she was rammed over three times by a truck and was crippled, and the driver was never found despite the fact that there were witnesses. Most Taiwanese believe _ that it was a botched KMT assassination attempt. And Chen has to go home every night and see her sitting in a wheelchair because of it. It's not an easy thing to shake.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/marketqa/2000/03/20/



Accident or assassination attempt?

One account claims the driver, described in press reports at the time as a "simple peasant with a steady job and a fixed residence, Chang Jung-tsai" was driving an "illegally assembled truck" down the narrow street where Mrs. Chen was standing.

Witnesses said Chang purposefully hit Mrs. Chen. They insisted that the driver reportedly exclaimed "Oh, she's not dead yet" before backing up and running over her again to ensure maximum injury if not death.
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp



From poverty to power: Chen Shui-bian's rise to the presidency
http://www.chinaonline.com/refer/biographies/secure/chenshuibian.asp


(Ex President) Lee says pro-unification forces to blame for SARS outbreak
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/19/1053309473.htm


DPP decries Soong's proposal
(Soong and Lien are mainland pigs.)
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/15/2003055308


KMT (Pig) rebel blasts party's voting order
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/06/02/2003053622


Recent poll shows satisfication with government, Chen
http://www.etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/05/17/1053136494.htm



Former hospital chief under fire (SARS spreader)
Wu was the superintendent of Taipei Municipal Jen Ai when President Chen Shui-bian was Taipei mayor, but he was fired over allegations of corruption in an equipment purchase scandal.

When Ma Ying-jeou (KMT Pig) was elected mayor, he invited Wu back and made him the superintendent of Hoping.
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/05/13/205762



The ‘New Taiwan Person’
Centuries ago, the island had an aboriginal culture of Malay and Polynesian descent. In the 17th century, the Dutch and Portuguese had colonies here, and the imported Chinese laborers — all men — intermarried with locals, forming the basis of the majority of today’s population. According this version of history, it was only in 1887 that China declared Taiwan a part of its territory in an effort to stem Japanese expansionism, say independence activists. But when that failed, China ceded Taiwan to Japan in perpetuity.
The Japanese held Taiwan for 50 years, until their defeat in World War II. In the years immediately after, Allied Forces backed Chiang Kai-shek’s temporary occupation of Taiwan. But according to pro-independence legal experts, the Nationalists never had a legal basis to stay.
“In 1949, Taiwan did not “split off from China”, but was occupied by the losing side in the Chinese Civil War,” according to a 1999 white paper endorsed by 18 overseas Taiwanese associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/316717.asp?cp1=1


Premier's performance satisfies public, poll says
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/08/01/2003061799


Soong, who is a mainland pig part of Chang's butchers, son of Soong a Powerful mainland China family like Chang's, ran for President in 2000, he lost thank goodness. But it was uncovered with official records that he received $20 Mil plus from the Gua Ming Dong (KMT) political party. This techically wasn't a crime because it was the party's money and not TW government money. But in fact the party stole it from the government, (everyone in TW accepts that). ('We are Chinese' I've heard as a reason thousands of times.) They traced at least 7 homes in Calf. purchased, by cash I believe, under Soong's son's name. Here's another ringer. Every child of every KMT offical is an American citizen. I hate Soong. I hate Lien who is the new KMT party chairman. These people are evil prejudice bastards who to this day treat Taiwanese as second class slaves in the country that was theirs. I'm registered some names, kmtpigs, soonglienpigs... for the upcoming election in 2004. I'll post were I make the sites.


President Chun vows to end death penalty - legalize gay marriage Taiwan
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2003/10/03/2003070206
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Sephirstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:02 AM
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2. If the pan-blue fascists win...
Taiwanese Hans and non-Han aboriginals better take a long hard look into the eyes of their neighbours and kick the asses of whoever sold them out to the mainlander fascists.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 01:08 AM
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5. Siss boom
bah.
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-03 12:20 PM
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7. Got brain?
Didn't think so.
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