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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 12:06 PM
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“ADL Disappointed In Supreme Court Decision On Gun Rights “ (June 26, 2008)
ADL Disappointed In Supreme Court Decision On Gun Rights
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New York, NY, June 26, 2008 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today expressed disappointment that the United States Supreme Court has curtailed the right of states to regulate firearms. In a 5-4 decision in District of Columbia v Heller, the Court's majority opinion held that the Constitution does not allow "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home."

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Although the decision protects an individual's right to bear a firearm, the Court is clear that government may prohibit the possession of guns in schools, to place "conditions and qualifications" on their commercial sale, and to restrict ownership of "dangerous and unusual weapons," such as automatic weapons. State legislatures should recognize the importance of maintaining bans on the use or caching of weapons by domestic extremists. The Court also acknowledged that states can ban firearms in schools and government buildings. We urge states to ensure that these common sense restrictions continue.

We are disappointed that the Supreme Court has ignored the real-world impact of handgun violence – both within the District of Columbia and throughout the nation. We are confident that the decision leaves the states enough room for the proper regulation of dangerous firearms to keep guns out of the hands of children and especially to thwart the violent intentions of international and domestic extremist organizations.

ADL joined a coalition in filing a "friend-of-the-court" brief to the Court, contending that the Second Amendment should not be interpreted as limiting a state's authority to regulate firearms when it seeks to protect the life, liberty and property of its citizens. Rather, the brief argues, the language of the Amendment can only be reasonably read to prohibit the federal government from interfering with such state regulation.
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ADL Lists Top Issues Affecting Jews In 2008
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Jewish Groups, Courts Weigh In On Social Issues
Jewish organizations contributed significantly, through public advocacy and amicus briefs, to a series of important court decisions on social and cultural issues. In Florida, the state supreme court struck down two proposed amendments that would have eliminated long-established religious freedom protections from the Florida Constitution.

The U.S. Supreme Court held, for the first time, that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to have a gun for private use, despite arguments that such a ruling would make guns more readily available to extremists and domestic terrorists.

Jewish groups adopted differing positions on controversial decisions by two state supreme courts, California and Connecticut, prohibiting bans on same-sex marriage, and also addressed the fallout from a California ballot proposition that sought to reverse that state's position.
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Does ADL oppose Israeli citizens keeping and bearing arms for defense of self and state?
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Mugweed Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 12:15 PM
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1. How much more "readily available" are they?
What a line of crap. Guns have always been available to those who want them, legally or not. Do these idiots actually think that some gun laws are suddenly going to prevent "extremists and domestic terrorists" from obtaining weaponry?

Splash some cold water on your face and wake up! Oh, and stop playing the persecuted vicitm so much. It's gotten old.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 12:45 PM
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2. hmm

Do these idiots actually think that some gun laws are suddenly going to prevent "extremists and domestic terrorists" from obtaining weaponry?

If laws are directed at the people FROM WHOM THE GUNS ARE OBTAINED -- yes, I imagine they do think that the opportunities for them to obtain firearms will be reduced.

As do I.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 12:48 PM
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3. jody has an odd fascination
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 05:39 PM
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6. So, what constitutes a "rider" (night or otherwise) on the hobbyhorse? (nt)
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 12:55 PM
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4. from a source jody might like

http://www.jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/israel-firearms.htm
Many have asked about the easy availability of firearms in the State of Israel, and whether or not they can bring their guns with them when visiting or settling there. Some have visited Israel, or have seen photographs of people walking the streets in Israel carrying firearms.Nearly everyone interested in the preservation of the Second Amendment in America points to Israel as proof of how ordinary citizens, armed and trained, are a deterrent to crime and terrorism. And it's true! However,a quick glance at the rigid gun laws in Israel will show that it has far stricter firearms laws than many people, including myself, previously thought. Enjoy reading the translation as much as I enjoyed translating the document!

In liberty,
Rabbi R. Mermelstein


The requirements listed for being given a permit to possess a firearm are:

1. Applicant must be a permanent resident of Israel for 3 consecutive years prior to making application for a firearms permit.

2. Applicant must be 21 years of age.

3. The permit request must be for personal use, not to engage in the business of firearms sales.

4. Applicant must fall into one of the following categories:

a. Part-time reservist (volunteer) for 3 years- may own 1 handgun
b. Such a reservist (volunteer) is a member of a gun club- may own 1 rifle
c. Professional, licensed public transportation driver, transporting a minimum of 5 passengers- may own 1 handgun
d. Licensed animal control officer- may own 2 hunting rifles, *not* full automatic weapons, or semi-automatic weapons with a limited capacity magazine.
e. Full-time dealer of jewelry or large sums of cash or valuables-may own 1 handgun

West Bank and Gaza Strip Settlers:

1. A resident in a militarily strategic buffer zone, essential to the security of the State of Israel- may own 1 handgun

2. A business owner in these geographic areas- may own 1 handgun

Veterans:

1. Veterans of the Regular Army honorably discharged with the rank of noncommissioned officer, and veterans of the Reserve Army with the rankof regimental commander- may own 1 handgun

2. Retired law enforcement officers with the rank of sergeant- may own 1 handgun

3. Retired prison guards with the rank of squadron commander- may own 1 handgun

Individuals:

Upon presenting documentation that one is about to receive a souvenir, aprize, an inheritance, or an award of appreciation from the Israel military.


Pass muster, does that?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 01:24 PM
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5. maybe somebody would copy that so jody can see it

or will have to acknowledge seeing it, anyhow.

I'd really love to know what he says about that answer to his question!
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