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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:40 AM
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Is it legal to build your own rifle or pistol?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:41 AM
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1. the google might know.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:42 AM
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2. yes. yes it is. n/t.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:58 AM
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17. People do it all the time
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:51 AM
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3. Perfectly.
As a bonus, federal firearms laws don't apply either, so long as you don't transport your creation across state lines. Only your states firearms laws will apply. Keep in mind that you will NEVER be able to sell or give the creation away though...if you transfer the firearm to anyone, you become a "manufacturer" and must be federally licensed.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:54 AM
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4. Been searching, It says legal. Can you build a machine gun?
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:55 AM
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5. Since you can't register it with the federal government...
...I would think not.


Maybe if they ever open the machine-gun registry? :shrug:
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:58 AM
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6. I have been looking at the nailers that use gas bottles to fire the nails.
Was thinking about building a rifle like that. They use a little I guess propane tube that mixes with air and then uses a battery to supply the spark to fire it.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:05 AM
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9. You're serious?
It would be hazardous to use and might have the muzzle velocity of a pellet gun. Propane does not ignite with nearly the power of black powder much less cordite.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:15 AM
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13. Hear you. Propane vs acetylene. MIxed with Oxygen.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:26 AM
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16. Here's something
sounds pretty half baked to me.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5613483.html

Too many moving parts.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:03 AM
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18. Been thinking.
Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 08:04 AM by .... callchet ....
Just like an automobile engine, except the piston would not be connected to the connecting rod. The piston would be the projectile. Or the valves would be the projectile.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:12 AM
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11. In theory, it's possible...
In practice you'd need to be one hell of a gunsmith in order to do that, legalities aside. Even one of the simplest full-auto weapons in history, the Sten, had at least 47 seperate parts.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 12:59 AM
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7. Does that mean it must be buried with you? nt
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:06 AM
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10. Actually, strike that last bit.
I didn't realize that U.S. v Stewart was reversed in 2006. At one point, the courts ruled that homemade firearms were exempt, but the appeals court overturned it.

I wouldn't recommend trying out those Sten plans anytime soon.
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1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:01 AM
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8. why do you ask? n/t.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:13 AM
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12. Interested in building firearm using igniting gas as propellant.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:18 AM
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14. Plus I really like guns. Might try and want to make a new one.
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Iktomiwicasa Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 01:23 AM
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15. yup, sure is....
....building a rifle right now, matter of fact.
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guntard Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:34 AM
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26. Me too, working on an original semi-automatic shotgun design
I need to make at least three testbed prototypes. These will be simplified designs to be installed in a stand (not hand-held) to test the system and its components. I reckon I will machine these up on a friend's Bridgeport mill after getting the magazine wells broached in a local shop.

If everything works, I'll get my Manufacturer's FFL and go into production.

But no paperwork at all is needed for the homemade prototypes.
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michreject Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:22 AM
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19. You can go into a hardware store
and for about 10 dollare, get the stuff to make a zip gun. (And no I'm not saying how)
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:38 AM
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20.  Here are a few home made "firearms"?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 08:40 AM
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21. As others have said, yes! n/t
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scrinmaster Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:00 AM
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22. Yeah, just follow all NFA and state laws.
If it's a rifle, the barrel needs to be over 16"
Shotgun, over 18".
Pistol, can't be smooth bore, no second pistol grip.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:05 AM
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23.  Here are a few
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:59 AM
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25. A coil gun does not fit the definition of firearm in US federal law
They're legally not firearms, and are not regulated in any way.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 10:57 AM
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27. Just don't forget state laws....
State laws do vary and depending on the exact definition it is possible they would be considered a "firearm".

In VA it would not but some state use vague language like "propels a projectile via gunpowder, exploding gas, or other method".

Of course vague laws are bad laws but there are thousands of them on the books.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 09:58 AM
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24. Yes
I have built a few rifles, and am in the process (very slowly) of building a 1911-A1 pistol.

As others have stated, you have to comply with state laws and the National Firearms Act - If you build something that is covered by it such as a short-barrelled shotgun, you have to do the required paperwork.
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guntard Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:22 PM
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28. On-line tutorial for making an AR-15 recever at home
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 04:28 PM
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29. It's a whole lot easier if you have use of a milling machine
;-)
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-09 06:39 PM
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30. I ahve found
a barrelsource. Thanks for the internet.
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Howzit Donating Member (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 02:42 AM
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31. Generally you can build what would be legal to own
Check your state laws before you start.
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:39 AM
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32. The Irony is...
That the easiest repeating gun to make, is the submachine gun, the real difficulty comes in making it semi automatic.

A person that owns a muffler shop, could easily crank out submachine guns by the hundreds with no modification (to the shop) All they would need would be an assortment of springs and some scrap steel.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 10:34 PM
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33. Potato guns are fun.
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