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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:34 AM Original message |
the "civilian AK47" is a deer rifle dressed up, so says John Lott |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. He has a point on the AK-47 thing. |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. It is my understanding that a moderately clever person ... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. You have been misinformed. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Your understanding |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
130. then please explain why, in 20 yrs of law enforcement work |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. To the gungeon in 3, 2, 1... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
98. That is where posts like this belong. |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Sometimes I need a 30 round clip to bring down a deer... |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. and comparitively unreliable aim next to a regular hunting rifle. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
30. What's a "regular" hunting rifle? |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
102. Depends on what is being hunted... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
80. Not if you're comparing it to a .30-30 Winchester, which it resembles. |
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TXRAT2 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #80 |
145. Wouldn't have either for hunting. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. It all depends on what you are hunting. |
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TXRAT2 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Not even for Whitetails. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. You're in Texas, though. |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Hunting white-tail deer in Maine was the same way. |
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TXRAT2 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #155 |
159. You're in Texas, though. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #146 |
157. minor quibble |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. Thanks. Learn something new every day... |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
97. Correct, the sight radius somewhat too short - nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Does your state allow that? |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. In Michigan, a 5 round magazine is the max for hunting |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Hunters have told me the 30-30 has probably taken more deer than any other round |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. It's a good choice where I live. |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
103. Having never fired an AK type weapon... |
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TXRAT2 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
147. Texas has no magazine restrictions |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. They probably won't |
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Ready4Change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
95. That's my thought too. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
131. actually not |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
43. +1 Best comment of the thread... |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
45. And AP tracer to cook it on the fly. |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
49. My Dad—who is a hunter—always said, "A good hunter should be able to |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #49 |
81. Yup. Why do you think you can't do that with a civilian AK? |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. Find another hobby. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
64. use a grenade next time... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
86. Sorry most state hunting laws have limits on the number of rounds... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. Sigh. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
137. My goodness: someone who shouldn't have a gun and shouldn't hunt (nt) |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
4. That is true. |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. Really? |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Finding the specifics can be daunting, but generally enough changes have been made so it is not easy |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
90. i have never seen a converted semi to full-auto gun |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Nah, not easily convertible.. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
96. It's not a modification. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
5. sure, when you want to shred the deer in advance.. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Of course you know that most deer rifles are more powerful than a "civilian AK-47," right? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
42. hence the reason most hunters suggest not using AK-47's to hunt? |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. Which is why comments about "shredding" deer w/ an AK47 lookalike are so silly. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:35 AM Response to Reply #52 |
99. That's some funny shit. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
119. Only an anti could "logcially" defend both sides of same coin |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Depends on where you live and what you are hunting. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
82. If you forsee shots longer than 125 yards, yes, you'd need something more powerful. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. What stats |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. you will have to listen to him, he spat out stats at the speed of an |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. More guns means less crime...Look to Somalia or Iraq for that answer. |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. Yes, that is a great comparison... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #46 |
120. Well written |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
77. Or maybe Switzerland or Norway? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
91. or switzerland |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. Eh, he's not lying but it's really more like a combat rifle that has been neutered |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. When blunderbusses are outlawed... |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
59. They wouldn't use an assault weapon |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's actually less powerful than a deer rifle |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Depends on what deer rifle you are comparing it to. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
37. It's similar to a .30-30 one of the most (historically) popular deer rounds. |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Unfortunately, good quality 7.62x39 hunting ammunition is scarce |
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yay (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. .311 NT |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
83. The new Wolf 154-grain softpoint load is reportedly very good |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. Technically, he's nearly right |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. Canadians have lots of guns |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
93. the issue is not |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
14. He was exactly correct |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. Crazy thing is he is right. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
16. Well, he's not really right about those "civilian AK-47's." |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. There are many rifles used for deer hunting |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Point taken, but the fact remains that a good number of deer hunting rifles |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
18. he's essentially correct |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
20. IMHO, Lott doesn't need to buy into this whole "deer rifle" malarkey |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. We're all going to need guns... |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. do the americans that buy civilian AK47s know they are dressed up? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Can you tell which of the following are misnamed "assault weapons"? |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Probably. There may some 'mystique' involved, but likely |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. Typically, yes about the dress up. Not sure about show and tell.. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
84. Yes. I own one. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
23. Apparently you support banning all guns or classes of guns. Please support your position with facts |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. its not the criminal with a gun that bothers me, its the alcoholic with a gun |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. OK, lets ban alcohol and solve your problem as well as DUI and domestic violence, agree? n/t |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
100. The criminals with guns kill thousands more than alcoholics with guns. |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
26. He's actually pretty close to the mark. |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. I would confirm that. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
28. VEPR |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Are wild pigs tasty? We have lots of them here |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. YES, some wild pigs are tasty but some like the one below killed 25 miles from my farm are not. |
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east texas lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
104. Holy Shit!... |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
118. Hogzilla! Yikes! |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #28 |
128. Just TRY getting your hands on a Super VEPR, though. |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
33. Somewhat, the 7.62x39 is comparative to the 30-30. With a scope, an Ak could be decent for deer. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. He's right. It has roughly the same ballisitcs as a 30-30 which is a classic deer round. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
40. A semi-auto Ak-47-style rifle w/5-round mag is no different than a typical semi-auto hunting rifle |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
41. A normal semi auto AK47 clone is exactly the same as a Ruger Mini-30. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
44. Why don't I care? nt |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
48. What he said is true. nt |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. Everybody has guns in Afghanistan and Somalia. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Yes, fully automatic, genuine AK-47s |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
57. Lott, as usual,is correct. The AK's imported and sold widely in the US |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
65. He's absolutely spot on correct 100% right on the money, etc. |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
70. Civilian Kalashnikov action.. |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
89. One in |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. You can get an AR in 7mm-08... |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. Oh, sweet. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
71. It doesn't have enough power for a long range hunting rifle. Fine short range. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. OK flat shooting for short range but just OK |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Good 154-grain softpoints in 7.62x39mm are now widely available... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
72. John Lott, is correct......Ensho would do good to pay attention. |
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Xela (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
73. John Lott is correct and you are making a storm in a tea pot. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
132. the OP will never admit they are wrong |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
74. And Saiga |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yes. IDENTICAL to a Ruger Mini Thirty intermediate-caliber deer rifle. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. there you go with the facts again |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
87. I hereby declare this thread a wretched failure |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-14-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. AR deer rifle... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
107. Gun tests gave it a "D" |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. I wonder what the beef was? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Here are some quotes... |
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inkool (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Interesting quotes. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:04 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Egads, you're right. I missed the chrome-moly vs. chrome lined screwup. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Yup, strange thing is.. |
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inkool (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Except if the springs were installed.. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. True, true. n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 07:59 AM Response to Reply #110 |
113. People are buying them up because of the "panic" |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-16-09 06:50 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Here are some quotes... |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. What, no .260? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-15-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
106. he is correct. |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
121. My friend shot a deer last year with his AK47 clone. |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-23-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. How |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. That would be nice but |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. yes |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 07:08 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Considering that a civilian AK is ballistically identical to a .30-30 Winchester, |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Yes |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-24-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #122 |
127. Nothing quite so fancy. |
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adiabatic (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-25-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
129. Are all gun owners "gun nuts" in your pathetic little hateful world? |
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cwcwmack (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
133. is it inappropriate to say |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-26-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Yes... |
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cwcwmack (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #134 |
135. but |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-27-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. And |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:22 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. That's not edible but it can destroy farms and forests. n/t |
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dashrif (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. Yup |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
138. The "assault weapon" is becoming the new hunting weapon... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-28-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. "Chickens DO come home to roost" and the stone that was rejected can become the cornerstone if party |
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Meloman (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
142. They're semi-automatic "clones" |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Just like a Chevrolet Impala is a "clone" of a NASCAR race car. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
144. It's a fashion statement. |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. So? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. When a gun worshiper chooses an "assaultish" weapon over a normally-styled one |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. LOL. Is that why Olympic target shooters use "assaultish" weapons in competition? |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. "dangerous" products |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #153 |
161. bathtubs and swimming pools too |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #150 |
158. So you want firearm ergonomics to stay static? From, say, 1910 or so? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-01-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
151. I do own one "weapon of war" that was "designed to kill people"... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
154. He's right, too NT |
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