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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:36 PM
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Where does Sotomayor stand on guns?
Sorry if I am late to the party on this, I've been busy.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:37 PM
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1. if she stands on guns, she needs to RTFM ...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:38 PM
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2. She believes a wise Latina could should the balls off a white man from 1000 yards...
... if she wanted to. But, she doesn't.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:39 PM
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3. The stocks are better for standing than the barrels... so I've been told. - n/t
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:40 PM
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4. she better be careful, she will
break her other foot doing that
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 07:54 PM
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5. My opinion is that she's firmly against them
She was part of a panel that ruled against numchucks, surely guns "scare" her even more, like they do with a lot of city-raised people.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 11:31 AM
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9. That seems to be what I am reading. nt
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:01 AM
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12. you "seem to be reading" that guns "scare" Sotomajor?

Fascinating. Can you give a link so I can seem to read it too?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 11:32 AM
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13. I've seen the way city people react to guns
so don't go there. Country folks grow up with guns, they know and admire people who own them and use them to hunt and to defend the community (like the sheriff).

To city people, there are only two classes of people in their lives who have guns: the thugs, and the cops who mistake innocent people for thugs every once in awhile.

Excuse me for thinking that Sonia Sotomayor's urban experience is what is going to be brought to the Supreme Court.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:01 PM
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15. My experience with city/country people has been the same.
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 12:05 PM by Tim01
I would guess you are right about her.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:31 PM
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18. yup, that's why your President has nominated her

Because she's really, really stupid and dishonest.

Have I got that right?
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:08 PM
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20. So prove she is not anti gun. Put up or shut up. nt
Edited on Sun Jun-28-09 05:09 PM by Tim01
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:30 PM
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17. excuse me, orders from the likes of you?

so don't go there

I'll go where I please.


To city people, there are only two classes of people in their lives who have guns: the thugs, and the cops who mistake innocent people for thugs every once in awhile.

Yes, I do believe that this is the sort of thing one reads at ... well, certain known places on the internet.

Statements that are combinations of really unintelligent and really untrue, in about equal parts.

Always lovely to see such things here at good old DU!


Excuse me for thinking that Sonia Sotomayor's urban experience is what is going to be brought to the Supreme Court.

I'd consider it, if I'd been speaking to you. I don't believe I was.

But what the heck, you go ahead and think that.

Since "Sonia Sotomayor's urban experience" is not defined by your ignorant and unpleasant statements, it hardly matters, does it?
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:19 PM
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22. We all bring our prejudices to our jobs, and to our opinions
I expect Judge Sotomayor to bring hers to her job, and you to bring yours to this forum, as I readily admit that I do. I've seen enough citified people in their reactions to guns (hell, it even happens out in the sticks, you should have heard a few "townie" women squeal in horror when we had to pass a handgun around in the jury room) to know what they usually look like. Her feelings about the Second Amendment are clear.

In any case, Heller is now established law, and Sotomayor would only replace the Souter vote that went the wrong way on it. I'm perfectly happy to have her views on other subjects on the Court, but I will admit that I expect to cringe mightily if she ever gets to write an opinion on the Second Amendment, hopefully it will be a dissent.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:00 PM
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14. Here is the first one I clicked on. Others are similar.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 02:34 PM
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19. Well of course FOX NEWS was the first one you clicked on!

Quelle surprise!

The statement under discussion, that you said is what you "seem to be reading" and I asked to be able to read too, was:

surely guns "scare" her even more

Where do you seem to be reading that in the Fox News screed?

Can you not copy and paste?

By the way, how does "scare" differ from scare, in your mind?

Just so I'm sure what we're talking about here.
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:10 PM
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21. So prove she is not anti gun. Put up or shut up. nt
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 05:24 PM
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23. Instead of doing an ad hominem attack on the source
why not tell us what reasoning in that source you find to be incorrect? Surely, a "wise Latina woman" feels that the rest of the Bill of Rights applies to the states, why not the Second Amendment?

I'm assured that we're going to find out a lot more about her stance on this important piece of the Constitution during her confirmation hearings. We might even discover some incident in her past that most city dwellers have that causes them to see the Second Amendment as some sort of historical mistake.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:36 PM
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6. She'd be a VERY wise Latina
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 08:36 PM by rocktivity
not to stand in FRONT of them.

:silly:
rocktivity
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 08:50 PM
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7. Behind a concrete backstop? (n/t)
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obliviously Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-26-09 11:53 PM
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8. You should not
Edited on Fri Jun-26-09 11:54 PM by obliviously
stand on guns it ruins the finish and destroys there collector value.
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Deadric Damodred Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 02:47 PM
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10. You should be able to know that...
...without even looking at her record. Obama is smart enough not to touch things like national registration and "assault weapons", but don't take that to mean he has suddenly had a change of heart towards the 2nd Amendment. There's not a snowball's chance in hell of Obama ever appointing a SCOTUS justice to the bench that would even have the slightest remote possibility of ever ruling in favor of the 2nd Amendment for ANY REASON. I guarantee you Sotomayor already knows how she will vote on any case dealing with guns; and that vote will be against the right to bear arms every single time. It's just a damned good thing that she isn't replacing any of the "Heller 5".
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-27-09 06:29 PM
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11. Once voted against incorporation of the 2ndA in a nunchaku case (IIRC)
but has said she respects D.C. v. Heller as settled law.

There is no fricking way she could possibly be more anti-gun than the guy she's replacing (Souter), so she's either the same as Souter or an improvement. I am hoping she's an improvement (as she probably will be on Fourth Amendment issues).
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Will E Orwontee Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-28-09 12:10 PM
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16. Monday
Monday the Supreme court will issue its last decisions of this session.

The firefighter race discrimination case Madam Appeals judge Sotomayor ruled on is one of them.

She has a not so enviable record of being overturned by SCOUTS.

From Judgepedia

The Supreme Court has reversed Judge Sotomayor in four instances where it granted certiorari to review an opinion she authored. In three of these reversals, the Court held that Judge Sotomayor erred in her statutory interpretation.

In Knight v. C.I.R., (128 S.Ct. 782, 2008.), the Court found that, based on an erroneous interpretation of the tax code, Judge Sotomayor applied an incorrect standard.

In Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith, Inc. v. Dabit, (547 U.S. 71, 2006), the Court found that Judge Sotomayor failed to apply precedent correctly in interpreting a scope of preemption provision of the Securities Litigation Uniform Standards Act.

In New York Times, Inc. v. Tasini, (533 U.S. 483, 2001), the Supreme Court affirmed the Second Circuit’s reversal of Judge Sotomayor’s district court ruling that the Copyright Act permitted electronic publishers to reproduce all articles in a periodical under a “collective works” privilege, concluding that Sotomayor erred in her interpretation of “revision of collective works” privilege in the Act.

In Correctional Servs. Corp. v. Malesko, (534 U.S. 61, 2001), the Court reversed Sotomayor for allowing an inmate to sue a halfway house operator for negligence based on a Bivens claim. After the trial court dismissed the case, Judge Sotomayor reversed and reinstated the litigation. The Supreme Court reversed Judge Sotomayor’s decision, holding that the former inmate did not lack effective remedies and that he had full access to remedial mechanisms established by the Bureau of Prisons. The Court also held that the former inmate’s suit would not have advanced Bivens’ core purpose of deterring individual officers from engaging in unconstitutional wrongdoing.

In Riverkeeper, Inc. vs. EPA (475 F.3d 83, 2007) The Supreme Court reversed Sotomayor’s ruling in a 6-3 decision, saying that Sotomayor’s interpretation of the “best technology” rule was too narrow. Sotomayor orginally ruled that the Environmental Protection Agency may not engage in a cost-benefit analysis in implementing a rule that the “best technology available” must be used to limit the environmental impact of power plants on nearby aquatic life. The case involved power plants that draw water from lakes and rivers for cooling purposes, killing various fish and aquatic organisms in the process. Justices Stevens, Souter, and Ginsburg dissented, siding with Sotomayor’s position<39>.

In Empire Healthchoice Assurance, Inc. vs. McVeigh (396 F.3d 136, 2005) In 2005, the United States Supreme Court reversed in a 5-4 decision a ruling in which Madam Appeals judge Sotomayor ruled against a health insurance company that sued the estate of a deceased federal employee who received $157,000 in insurance benefits as the result of an injury. The wife of the federal employee had won $3.2 million in a separate lawsuit from the respective insurance company where she claimed caused her husband’s injuries. The health insurance company sued for reimbursement of the benefits paid to the federal employee, saying that a provision in the federal insurance plan requires paid benefits to be reimbursed when the beneficiary is compensated for an injury by a third party<39>. The Supreme Court in its ruling that under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Act of 1959 (FEHBA), state courts and not federal courts are the proper forum for a lawsuit by a plan administrator seeking reimbursement for medical costs paid by the plan on behalf of a beneficiary when the beneficiary recovers damages in a tort action against a responsible third party<40>. Justices Breyer, Kennedy, Souter, and Alito dissented
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