Confronting an armed criminal

[funkyflathead]

Okay your confronting an armed criminal. You have a gun too (assume you have a gun you own and use.)

Would you rather HE have in HIS possession:

A) A Ruger 10/22 .22 LR with a fully loaded 20 round magazine

or

B) Remington 760 pump action .30/06 with fully loaded 4 round magazine


State why too.

[La_Serpiente]

1. If he had a gun

I would give up my belongings. However, if he had a knife, and I had a knife, I'd fight the guy unless I was put in an uncompromising posistion.

[slackmaster]

2. The 10/22 for sure

I'm assuming this confrontation happens in an urban or suburban area.

I'd pick the smaller caliber rifle with more rounds for these reasons:

- Rifle is shorter, lighter, easier to handle in confined space than the Remington.

- A well-placed hit with a .22 LR is far more effective than a miss with any caliber. 30 caliber at close range against a human is overkill.

- Less problem with overpenetration (through walls, doors, etc.)

- 20 rounds means more chances to get an effective hit.

- If wounded near the center of mass, assailant is more likely to survive ONE shot and therefore has a better chance to surrender and survive. OTOH if he or she persists in the attack you still have plenty of additional shots.

- Police are likely to seize the weapon at least for the course of the investigation. Even when no charges are filed, they can be slow to return personal property. I'd rather be out a rifle I can replace for $169 at Big 5 Sporting Goods than one worth several hundred.

- Less hearing damage to the survivor(s).

[funkyflathead]

3. I'm talking about the criminal. not you n/t

[slackmaster]

5. LMAO! It's 6:21 AM, foggy outside, and I've had no coffee

Give the bad guy the Remington. I'll meet him halfway with my M1 Garand (same ammo, 8-round capacity).

I think I should go back to bed now.

[Withergyld]

4. Interesting choice of weapons

There is a lot of information not stated in your question. Is the use of force justified? What environment is thgis occuring?
I will assume that use of force is justified in this case. Since you state that the criminal is armed, I would choose the the Remington pump due to the greater probability of stopping the criminal with one shot. Both weapons can be lethal, but with the 30-06 shot placement would be less important.
edit to add:
neither choice is ideal for self defense. A handgun or 18" shotgun would be more ideal in most self defense situations.

[Withergyld]

6. oops I missed that it was the criminal's weapon.

:dunce:

[juancarlos]

7. I'd rather he had...

the .22 rifle. This is because He could only get off a few shots of relatively weak round before I would be able to draw and end the attack with a pair of 230 grain .45 ACPs to the chest. The third shot would be to the head, if he continued to be a threat.

The above was assuming it was an unforseen encounter while I was CCWing.

If I knew of the confrontation beforehand, I would have gotten my self-built custom AR15 style carbine. It is a flat-top with a red-dot sight, an A1 stock, a custom grip, and flip up auxillary sights. It would be loaded with XM193 rounds, to reduce the risk of over-penetration. The magazines would be 20 rounders. Or, I might use a Remington 11-87 semi-auto 12ga loaded with number 4 shot.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

9. oh yeah

i'd prefer an m116/m203 grenade launcher combo. I'd stand on my veranda and say "SHay Hullah to my Riddle Fren" and lite him up!

[DonP]

8. It doesn't matter

(sarcasm on)

According to some folks around here ..."it is far more likely that I would take his gun away and use it on him"

(sarcasm off)

sorry, I couldn't resist it.

[the_acid_one]

10. No....no...

That only works for criminals. A criminal can use telekinisis to rip guns right out of your hands and use them against you. But there's no way a normal citizen can take a gun away from a criminal.

[1a2b3c]

11. I take the pump

If he missed with the first shot i could probably get him before he could pump and aim.

[alwynsw]

12. I'd prefer to go against the 760

A little less handy than the 10/22 and a little slower in experienced hands. Then there's the recoil and, if it were nighttime, the increased muzzle flash. If he's good, I'm toast in a hurry - no messy bleeding out over a long period of time.

He'd better be good. I'm well trained in the use of a handgun for self defense and have no qualms at all about using it for defense of my life or someone else's life. There will be no second guessing on my part to give the jerk extra time for a clean shot. I sincerely doubt that the criminal's mindset is equal to mine, whatever his choice of iron.

[solinvictus]

13. The Ruger

I would rather take my chances at being hit with a .22 rather than a 30.06. The Remington has a slower rate of fire, but it is more likely to kill with one shot and perforate any existing cover I may have. I'd shoot with my Tokarev, which will penetrate cinder blocks.

[MrSandman]

14. With a 10/22,

he may miss too fast to win. Given the energy of each, I would prefer he have the .22. Hope he fears the Wrath of Sig.