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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:28 PM
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FBI: Murders fell 10 percent in first half of 2009
Dec 21 01:08 PM US/Eastern
By DEVLIN BARRETT
Associated Press Writer

Murder and manslaughter dropped a surprising 10 percent for the first half of the year, according to the FBI's data.


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Maybe the continuing spread of CCW?

More people "getting along"?

Ammunition prices?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:29 PM
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1. Increase in police tazings? nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:29 PM
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2. We're running out of victims?
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:54 PM
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5. LOL Good one. I think Houston just might be. n/t
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:33 PM
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6. Katricians killing each other off. nt
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:34 PM
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3. With gun sales at all time highs?
We were promised by the Brady Gun Control Group that blood would run in the streets with all the gun sales.

Who do we see to complain about a 20 year low in violent crime that is "totally coincidental" with 48 states allowing their law abiding to carry concealed?
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virginia mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:53 PM
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10. Just another, failed, gun control promise..
Someone should make a list of all their "failed predictions"...

And yet, the MSM insists on ramming their message down our throat, well, it is getting to the point it don't matter what they say, like the Repuke party from which they sprang, they have finally just about shrank to insignificance.


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 07:41 PM
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4. I suspect long-term demographic trends have something to do with it
As the population gradually becomes older, crime rates will continue to decline.

The median age reported for the 2000 census was 35.3 years. The CIA's World Factbook gives an estimate of 36.7 as the median age for 2008.

Most violent crime has always been committed by young men.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:18 AM
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18. I would have predicted the opposite...
More older people, more accessable victims.

Hmmm.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 10:27 AM
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19. As a senior citizen I resent that remark
Some of us are quite capable of putting up a fight.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 08:51 PM
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7. Fewer and fewer people have anything
worth stealing or dieing for.:shrug:
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:13 PM
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8. Do you mean in terms of
possessions, Doc, or in terms of causes to believe in? I think we're poor in both these days. The former, I think, might actually increase crime rates. Even though there's less that's worth stealing, the fact that there is less makes those who don't have it even more desperate, etc., etc.

The latter, of course...well, people having fewer causes they find it worthwhile to die for might just be the silver lining in the cloud of apathy that seems to have descended on our country.

Or it might not. It might actually be one of the saddest things that cloud has brought.

I'm kind of on the fence on that one.


:shrug:
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:25 PM
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13. Generally poverty isn't cited as a reason for a
*decrease* in crime.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:28 AM
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15. That's sort of a local joke. When we brag about our
low crime rate we say the reason is we don't have anything worth stealing. Actually we haven't noticed much change in our economy in this recession, we have been in a recession here for like 30 years.
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TPaine7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:25 PM
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9. This phony "FBI data" can't fool me
I know that if there are more guns in ordinary hands and there are more ordinary people carrying guns "on the street" there will be more crime.

"It's axiomatic."

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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:12 PM
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11. axiomatic


I've always preferred "intuitively obvious to the casual observer."
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taurus145 Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:32 PM
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12. Keep channeling
I like it
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 11:26 PM
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14. Or maybe all those gun nuts
are conspiring against sensible gun control advocates by refraining from killing anyone for a while, so we'll be ok with less restrictive gun laws, so they can buy alot of guns and kill everyone in a few years.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 12:42 AM
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16. Could be n/t
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 09:48 AM
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17. Hmm. The chastity belt school of thought? nt
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